Life - Where you at?

[coko]

Zilla - agree. I sometimes ponder what else I could of spent it on, but think, she spent money on me, and both of us spent time. I think it has all be worth it, because of the experiences, even if sometimes it is bad.

[Negi]

You could "of" spent your money on fun drugs like LSD and if you were really in the mood for it, get addicted to cocaine.  Just saying.

[Zilla-]

fun fact, trying one illicit substance does not mean you're addicted to anything. although coke is bad news, stay away from that shit. spend your drug money on trees and mushrooms is my advice

[Legion]

Unfortunately I'm not made of money and I already work full time. I have finally recently cleared out my debts. See, I was a very generous guy, and I lost quite a few thousand dollars (20) on women whom I thought were innocent. Little did I know they were simply incompetent. No one has really ever heard the whole story of my love interests, and I know I could write a book on it, so I won’t unless asked.

$20... thousand?  O_o  Where did you even get that much money?  That's not "quite a few," that's "officer, when the angry haze lifted she was dead," territory.

Credit cards. Two cards, I have amazing credit.

Have or had?

Had and have. I wasn't going to let two girls ruin my credit. They are paid off, but it only took years to do that for one, and a court case for the other.

A court case? Gee, that is serious. Personally, I think it's never a wise decision to share your personal belongings (eg. money) with a love interest, simply because love is not unconditional and money can get spent. Love or whatever it's called these days, for the most part, is a selfish process -- you want that person to be with you/want you/be unable to live without you for YOU. It's not because of some divine interest or whatever. Anyway, when it comes to money, you've got to protect yourself. Sure, it may be 'just money', but it's all you'll ever really own in this life and it provides that little security you need to get by.

I'm not under the impression I'm telling you stuff you people don't already know, but for the love of God, how can you lose so much money to a girl? Did you buy her a car? A condo? Car and condo? Car and condo and aerobics classes?

Tell us, Lava...

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. Seems to me like you had a bad string of relationships but I know that I'd gladly die for the girl I love. I'd rather not go into that clusterfuck as it is some crazy shit that's been evolving over the past 4 years or so, but I do love her unconditionally. Love's a bitch, and all bitches is bitches, and most bitches are bitches but some bitches are worth it. To me money doesn't really matter. You need it to get by but that's it. Everything in contemporary society has a cost, be it time, money or whathaveyou. I appreciate her for who she is, faults and everything, and if to me it's worth it to buy her a diamond ring to see her happy then I'm going to go ahead and buy it. In terms of money I've easily spent at least $2000 on this girl and I think nothing of it, sure I regret when something doesn't work out the way I planned (like that fucking surprise that was ruined because she had made plans with her friends, word of advice if you are planning a surprise that will take up time be sure that she knows that you're doing something at that given time. Unless she is a friendless loser or something) Take what you want and pay for it. That's just my 2 cents.

No, I've had pretty OK relationships. I'm not bitter like that, anyway. What I'm saying is it's dangerous to spend your money on people because the money you spend on them cannot be spent on you anymore. If you make that choice, you will always remember it. You can't forget how much money you spent on people, because deep down you realize it's the most valuable thing _in this world_ and you gave it away. It sounds like I'm purposely denying unconditional love, but I'm not. It's out there, it exists. It's cool, it's fast, it's slow and it's all you need. I guess it comes down to this: unconditional love often means you'd be prepared to sacrifice your needs, but the truth of the matter remains that you're not one hundred per cent sure they would do the same thing for you. Of course, you cannot test it out, provided you would even want to, and that's exactly why this is so tricky. Give all you have to give but pray it doesn't cost you.

Also, I don't think anyone would gladly die for the person they love.

[Zilla-]

But why would I want to spend money on myself for some bullshit that I'm most likely going to take for granted anyway, when I could spend it on someone else that I care about in hopes of enriching their life? Money is not as valuable as you portray it to be. As I said, you need money to get by in today's world but that's all. I don't know, I'm not a greedy person I guess. I'd rather live in a decent apartment than a proper house for example.

I also enjoy doing favors for other people, I don't keep track or collect on them or anything like that, I simply enjoy making others' lives better. In return I hate having to ask for someone to go out of their way on my behalf. Call it low self esteem if you want, I just don't consider myself worth having someone go out of their way for, and I know I won't appreciate something as much as someone else will, so I'd rather get them a gift than spend the money on myself.

Giving shouldn't be something that one feels obligated to do, it should be something that one does for oneself. For example, when I ask her if she'd like to give me some of her time I don't expect her to say yes, I'd like her to, otherwise i wouldn't ask, but it is unfair to expect others to feel obligated to do things, and in return I have no obligations to anyone other than myself. I have no obligations to my boss to show up for work, fuck that guy, the only reason I go is because I make myself go. In return, he has no obligations to pay me other than if he doesn't he'll lose his job, so he owes it to himself and no one else.

As for death, I came to terms with that years ago, everyone's going to die sooner or later so there's no point in being afraid, and if my final act could benefit someone else than I have no regrets. /emo

[Milldawg]

Legion you're such a cynic. Cynicism is highly overrated :p

Zilla knows where it's at. Optimism and generosity for the WIN.

[IskatuMesk]

Yeah I think I'll hang onto my hard-earned cash. A girl can have it when she pries it from my cold, dead, blood-soaked, charred hands.

[DrumsofWar]

Yeah I think I'll hang onto my hard-earned cash. A girl can have it when she pries it from my cold, dead, blood-soaked, charred hands.

I bet you 5 dollars all the money you have that you'll give you up all the money you have once you get to first base.

[coko]

What is first base in your world? To me that is kissing right? 2nd is hands, 3rd Oral and 4th full intercourse?

[DrumsofWar]

More or less.

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[Legion]

lol @ you guys!

Oh, if I were in love, I'd definitely give her anything she needed/wanted. I'm about as self-deprecating as the next blue just-outta-school wet-behind-his-ears sucker you meet. I'm just stating some facts. You need money. Giving it away is dangerous. To a degree. Giving away 5 bucks isn't as dangerous as giving away 5000 but still.

Anyway, I thought first base is kissing. I'd never give money for that. Why would anyone want to?

[Marco]

Also, I don't think anyone would gladly die for the person they love.

I'm sure at least one person out there would.  At least one. 

[Legion]

Also, I don't think anyone would gladly die for the person they love.

I'm sure at least one person out there would.  At least one. 

Yeah, the crazy ones. I mean, come on, death is about the worst and unhealthy thing that can happen to a person.

[Zilla-]

Why do you consider it the worst? For example I'd rather die than be permanently comatose. There are a bunch of things worse than death imo. Your logic is flawed.

[Marco]

Death isn't unhealthy.  There is a distinct lack of health in the dead.  There is no health left.  It is a complete absence of any sort of health system.  The dead are neither healthy nor unhealthy.  Death is not unhealthy.  When you cross into death, health immediately is no longer relevant. 

Don't forget to eat your semantics kids.