MAFIA: Sanctuary - FINISHED

[Milldawg]

Probably either Murdermaster or AA7, whichever one of them is still alive after today. They're definitely the top candidates for Killer of Dread.

[Murdermasterx]

yeah i pretty much knew people would pile on me. all i can say is if i'm mafia then i conceded the moment i told the truth about my class and what i did with my ability. when no one voiced any suspicion of me at all why would i do that, if i were mafia i certainly wouldn't be flailing desperately about on a day 1 like this.

lavarinth behavior makes no sense as usual. i don't understand that vote at all

[Milldawg]

Who's piling on you?

[Murdermasterx]

piling on may be a bit hyperbolic, but you obviously know what i mean

[AA7Dragoon]

I want to give Lavarinth the benefit of a doubt, but this is absolutely ridiculous.  If he is possessed, this makes little sense; if he's innocent, this makes no sense at all.

Just what alignment do you answer to, Lavarinth?  Because right now, you're helping the side of evil.  I'm the only Paladin on the side of good and you want to lynch me.  

Let's take my innocence into doubt for a moment.  I am more valuable alive than dead.  For these reasons:

1. If I am evil, then it's worth seeing if I die or not over tonight's events.  Obviously if I am the only Paladin on the good side, I am a high risk target to have killed.
2.  If the possessed side exploits this situation and keeps me alive, then I have a chance to keep someone alive, and if I guess right, my protected target will prove my innocence (as I am the only Paladin).

Even though I know I am innocent, there is no reason to kill me if you doubt my innocence.  I am much more valuable alive, which is why I consider Lavarinth's hasty vote to be reckless, if not intentionally malicious.

[Murdermasterx]

i don't agree that leaving you alive if you're guilty is really worth anything, but, and maybe i'm missing something, it seems to me lavarinth is voting based on almost literally nothing. aa7 said he thought milldawg could be innocent based on the target, that's really solid enough evidence for you to lynch him lav? while i agree it's bad reasoning on aa7's part, it's nothing out of the ordinary from him. it's not like he said he's 100% certain of md's innocence anyway. i really don't understand what he's done to make you so certain of his guilt.

if aa7 is guitly then is milldawg his accomplice?

[Thalraxal]

@Lav: I don't think anyone really understands your case against AA7 and maybe Milldawg.  Could you please try to explain it in further detail?

@AA7: I'm inclined to agree with Oopy.  If you're guilty, you're going to hang, it's not worth the risk of keeping you alive.  On the other hand, I still doubt that you are guilty and Lav's failed to field a convincing argument against you.

@MurderManX: You're a suspect, but I don't think anyone's even outright accused you of being guilty yet.  Very far from a pile on.

[SaintKerrigan]

Sheesh, what were the odds of having both the Necromancers Decrepify both of the Sorceresses in the same night? That's just freaky.

I'm a little puzzled by Murdermasterx's response to the suspicions directed at him. No one's actually voted for him yet, and yet he responded in a way that seemed like he was a multiple-vote suspect. It'll be something to keep an eye on.

I would say that if Krazy/Lavarinth happened to be a scumpair, then Krazy is lying about his role, since he definitely targeted Lav last night, and if Lavscum were Decrepified then there would have been no nightkill. There is a way to prove whether Krazy is a Necromancer or not, but it involves him announcing who he'll decrepify tonight and having AA7 protect the target to avoid nightkill interference. Personally, I don't think Krazy's suspicious enough yet that we need to put him through that level of clearance, but a way to confirm his alignment (and Lav's by association) does exist.

[Murdermasterx]

no i didn't rofl, multiple people said i was the only logical person who could've been the killer based on the evidence gained in the role claim, you're making a big deal about literally nothing

[Thalraxal]

no i didn't rofl, multiple people said i was the only logical person who could've been the killer based on the evidence gained in the role claim, you're making a big deal about literally nothing

I think that we can say the same about you too, Oopy.  Everyone's who's said "Oopy is the most logical suspect" have also stated that it only holds true if everyone is telling the truth.  So like I said before, to say "everyone's piling on me!" when no one's even accused you directly is a bit of an over reaction.

[Murdermasterx]

what i said was "i knew people would pile on me", as in i knew when i went along with the mass role claim that i would likely be the only person to admit to not using my role, and as a result i would be the prime logical suspect. i said nothing more and the squabbling about my choice of words is annoying and a waste of time.

[Lavarinth]

You guys are over analyzing everything far too much. From the moment AA7 posted his speculative post about how only himself and Milldawg can surely be innocent, I found it controversial. Then he finally retorts with a "well, you got it all wrong, people are innocent, but they're also guilty." A post of nonsense really, much like something I would post, and there's only room for one nonsense poster around here. We should all be very aware by now I don't react so irrational if I'm innocent. If anything, I'd demand AA7 to "protect," so he says, myself or the other Sorceress. It'd be much more entertaining to me if it were me, however, as that's just pushing his buttons, I wouldn't be surprised to end up dead overnight.

... I should probably post after concentrating more instead of starving and stopping every 10 seconds to do some work.

[Thalraxal]

So, do I have this right, Lav?  You think that AA7 and Milldawg are the evil ones, because AA7 jumped out and said: "Milldawg and I are innocent!" and failed to give you a satisfactory and consistant response as to why he felt that way?

[AA7Dragoon]

... That's it?  Your whole argument against me is, "A post of nonsense really, much like something I would post, and there's only room for one nonsense poster around here.  We should all be very aware by now I don't react so irrational if I'm innocent."

I think a lot of people would disagree with you on that one Lavarinth.  As for my posts, I've made my points pretty clear between myself and Milldawg.  There's also the fact that I wouldn't have vouched to kill Dread before the first day.  This is a principle I've held for 3-4 games by now.  Every time I've had to defend myself on this, and every time I'm innocent in the end.  Isn't it a little redundant to still challenge me on this?

I'm not sure if Lavarinth is guilty, however.  He's putting himself too much in the spotlight.  If we were to look at another player with suspicion, Murdermasterx would be one.  From what I've read so far, he still has not revealed his role to us yet.

[Krazy]

If we were to look at another player with suspicion, Murdermasterx would be one.  From what I've read so far, he still has not revealed his role to us yet.

anything to break us out of this torpor i guess

i am a barbarian but i did not use my role last night. as milldawg has illustrated, randomly using abilities that can hurt the good guys with absolutely nothing to go off of is not a great idea. considering the nature of my role, and the possibility of multiple barbarians bashing multiple innocents, i decided not to use my bash.