Wanderers of Sorceria Dedicated Update Thread

[RazorclawX]

There are others I didn't understand, still: why didn't Kosseimaru perform the ritual earlier if Queen Arcadia was slowly retrieving his soul from the beginning? Did he wish to preserve his human form?

He just plain didn't trust anyone to do it. He only made Mizuki do it because he had to/ran out of other suckers.

[Blake]

There are others I didn't understand, still: why didn't Kosseimaru perform the ritual earlier if Queen Arcadia was slowly retrieving his soul from the beginning? Did he wish to preserve his human form?

He just plain didn't trust anyone to do it. He only made Mizuki do it because he had to/ran out of other suckers.

Did I miss something?

[Spiderking]

Sounds like you have an idea already in mind.

But, I'm curious about the title of one particular track that was used.

Spoiler

I do recall it playing before you end up fighting Abolisher's Mekani Crais in the North District with Hikaru. Not surprisingly it even plays in "Pirates vs Ninjas"before facing the Nightmare Beast, and in the cutscene in "Truth of the Heart" before Clench orders Gorbash to destroy the Dam.

(spoiler tabs used, just to avoid spoiling anything for anyone new to WoS)

If you want to have that song you could just go into the world editor of all the campaigns and copy all the imported files. If I recall correctly, it's all mp3 files. I have not gotten book 6 music yet, but it's pretty easy to do. The protectors you are looking for is labeled "zother-protectors" I think it first appears in book 4 but I am not sure.

[Theia_Loki]

Sounds like you have an idea already in mind.

But, I'm curious about the title of one particular track that was used.

Spoiler

I do recall it playing before you end up fighting Abolisher's Mekani Crais in the North District with Hikaru. Not surprisingly it even plays in "Pirates vs Ninjas"before facing the Nightmare Beast, and in the cutscene in "Truth of the Heart" before Clench orders Gorbash to destroy the Dam.

(spoiler tabs used, just to avoid spoiling anything for anyone new to WoS)

If you want to have that song you could just go into the world editor of all the campaigns and copy all the imported files. If I recall correctly, it's all mp3 files. I have not gotten book 6 music yet, but it's pretty easy to do. The protectors you are looking for is labeled "zother-protectors" I think it first appears in book 4 but I am not sure.

Actually, if memory still serves me right, Book 5 is when that particular song I'm talking about starts to pop up.

And thanks for the tip about copying files. Hadn't occurred to me that you could copy them, but it could be due to some reluctance in possibly messing with anyone's work (not that such a thing could, though).

[RazorclawX]

Merciless shameless bump so I can move this over the locked topics.

[TheNewHorde]

I haven't played Book 6 yet, but that's cause I deleted my save files from before and this week I did a sorceria run all the way to book 4, the puppetmaster. 

I played that map years ago, but now the map is a black screen if I try it to load it.  Not sure what's going on, WC3 just freezes on loading for that map each time.

[TheNewHorde]

btw, as I would like to add.

I see improvements in your art and I just want to congratulate you on that.  Of course, it's still miles and miles away from any being quality art, but I can see you at least put more efforts into the later arts and is getting better.  At first it was painful to look at most of the charater art on the loading screen, but then it got better as I moved along the books.  (or maybe i just got used to it more. )  Keep it up! 

[TheNewHorde]

Is there an older version of Book 4 available for download?  I tried everythng I know, like redownloading, put it different folder, tried to go from level 5 and press continue, or clicking on level 6 button directly.

Nothing works, can't get to the Puppetmaster level.

[RazorclawX]

If you downloaded the 1.24 patch that's why it's not working. I never uploaded the new version.

[TheNewHorde]

I see, so I just have to reinstall WC3, right?  Which patch do I use for this?  I know there's firelord models amongst other.  Which is the best recommended patch for WoS?

edit:  also, what other projects do you plan for the future, if you don't mind me asking.  Even if it's non-game related, I just find your dedication fascinating over the many years I've watched each book come out.  I started following this when book 3 came out and I'm just curious what you plan for the future.

[TheNewHorde]

Okay, I reinstalled WC3 and manually patched to 1.23a.

Now it works again. 


I do have another question though, I replayed the level where you have to protect the Eclispe Cannon for 30 minutes.

There is one optional quest I keep missing, and I kept replaying it but I can never activate it.

Here's the ones I have.

Ice Blockage - i break the blockade the moment the map starts.
Avalanche - and built a meat wagon to destroy the trees then suicide charge all my units to destroy the ice pillar.
Dark Portal - Destroyed it right away when I receive my ship fleet, I used ship to distract the demons and my army just charged the portals.
Kill Ebon and her alter - that one I actually saved for the very late in the game, which was probably  a bad idea, but basically suicide charged the alter using Shizuka's soul power and the massive army of 4 hydra seige.  Took 3 seconds.
Eclispe Cannon - Then I just sat there and waited for the next 15 minutes for the cannon to be up.  And built my army to 150 food.

Afterwards, I just eclipse cannoned the 4 bases one by one, and just overran the bases with the giant 150 food army.

But after doing that, I keep missing the last quest, the question mark that I couldn't figure out what to optional quest it is.

[Davzz]

The optional quests you get in that mission is based on what you do during the previous missions.

There's one where you spare the Satyrs and Kazgaroth joins you.

And another if you DON'T kill the Murlocs using Nekurow and if you DO destroy their base on the mission you first get to play as Shizuka (The murlocs won't show up if you already killed them in Mission 2 with Nekurow).

[TheNewHorde]

I never got the spare the Satrye quest... was end up having to kill them.  I wonder how you get that spare Satrye quest.

[Davzz]

Once again, it's the mission where Shizuka and her team first show up. The quest to spare the Satyrs is listed in the quest log as "Leaf it be" but in a bit of counter-intuitiveness, you DON'T want it to be listed as completed if you want them to join you in the later mission.

Both the quest description and Shizuka's speech will hint that she doesn't want them dead if it can be helped, and in fact, you can actually kill every of their unit and buildings EXCEPT the Tree of Life to get them out of the way so you can concentrate on the other enemies.

If you do it right, Kazgaroth will appear in the later mission with a quest that's very similar to the one that asks you to kill Ebon (This time, it's kill Xervious to ally with the Satyrs)

[TheNewHorde]

Actually, I just finished all 6 books.

I could say that the ending gave me several "lol" moments and "huh?!?" moments.  It was funny and corny in a good way.

One thing I was iffy about was the Sypha Blade/Nekurow ending, it felt somewhat abrupt and let down?  I mean it's like one of those anime moments where they hint at a sequal but you know there won't be one.

Anyway, the thing that interests me most is the story factor of it, everything aside, the story alone gave me several "wow" plot twists and made me rethink my thoughts for quite a bit.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this made into an anime one day, though with major re-scripting and scene editings as well as some storyline changes.  This might even be one of the few good "game-to-anime" anime with actually well made plot.  It was obvious lots of time and effort was put into this plot, as if this was an extremely complicated version of the already complicated Tsubasa Chronicle/xxxHolic plot.  (Noting, despite reading the manga and watching the anime, I'm not a huge fan of it.) 

If possible, I think it wouldn't too far fetched to have a story like this made into an anime after some editing and lots of sub-characters being tossed out.  Even the beloved Nekurow (whom I actually like, despite being called the "abusive boyfriend type" by Shizuka, another "lol" moment there) might get completely knocked out for plot purposes if this was made into an anime due to the nature of the ending.  Or the ending might actually change.

Anyway, all dream talk aside, chances of this happening it like probably 30 or 40 years later when we're all old and most of you forgot this game by then.  Though Razorclaw X would made the big buck by then.  (That's if any of us can actually make this into a manga successfully and not fail epically doing it...)