Left 4 Dead

[Lavarinth]

And you can happily reload while shoving!

You're a dick. Just so you know. In case that hadn't been established. A dickwizard. Dickaroonie. Dickgician.


Isn't there supposed to be diminishing returns on shoving for that exact reason?

I only purposely killed you once.. Another time you walked right in front of me, and apparently if you click fast enough jokingly trying to revive someone, you end up shooting them instead.

[Mucky]

All they need to do is remove the closets. Closets have become the central strategy for crescendos, and it's basically uncounterable. Smoker? Shove the tongue off. Hunter? Shoved. Shoved. Shoved. Dead. Boomer? No one gives a shit about the fat guy. The Infected have no real way of forcing the survivors out of such places. All they can do is wait.

[WB]

Alternatively, they could enable friendly-fire on shoving as well. Then you can't spam it in a closet, you'll kill your teammates and then you're fucked.

[CDLVII]

Stamina bar for shoving?

[UntamedLoli]

It wouldn't be so bad if there was some kind of thought process to it instead of spamming it constantly or putting it on the mouse wheel.

[WB]

In the commentary they said that shoving worked on teammates too (to shove them away from stuff) but it was taken out because players would shove each other off rooftops. I don't think they realized what that change would do before release. If that was still in, people wouldn't be able to spam like they can now.

[Lavarinth]

because players would shove each other off rooftops.

Because they don't already have the ability to kill each other?

And if you're pushed off, you can be pulled up..?

[Hercanic]

They just need a Closet Zombie that'll ravage you if you stay in the closet too long.

=oD

[Mucky]

They just need a Closet Zombie that'll ravage you if you stay in the closet too long.

=oD

Perfect. It needs a better title than Closet Zombie, though. How about Dragoon?

[Hercanic]

No, that zombie type is already out of the closet, so it wouldn't work for this situation

[WB]

because players would shove each other off rooftops.

Because they don't already have the ability to kill each other?

And if you're pushed off, you can be pulled up..?

Not my logic, they said so in the commentary.