MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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Re: MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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Hmm... looks like our Observers either don't want to come out of hiding, or have nothing to share.  Or are dead.  Let's hope it's not that last option...

Right now, the only person I can really suspect of being a Dark Templar is Tipereth.

First, he's got a pretty solid reason for wanting to kill Negi:
Negi's Sig wrote:Tipereth is straight retarded.
And second: He did just sugest that we randomly lynch Lav:
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In all seriousness, Lav is inherently a bad guy. Judging by the last game (which I wasn't a part of hahaha) even if he's on our side it would be an advantage to having him dead.
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Negi would have been dead first round if I was a Dark Templar. You seem to have a lot to say, but not much to go by. I think all our useful people got shot before their time, and now we're fucked.
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Lavarinth has told me that he has been unable to post the past few days since he was in the hospital. He hopes to be able to post tomorrow.
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Post by Aekenon »

Yikes, sorry to hear about his hospitalization.  What was the matter?

Anyway, that Negi thing's just not a very valid argument, in my opinion.  If he was killed for personal reasons, then the suspect list stretches much longer than just Tipereth. :P

Though... Tip, Thalraxal also called you on your comment against Lav, and you didn't really address that.  Perhaps there isn't much to say, but...
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Tipereth and Thalraxal appear suspicious to me at the moment.

Thalraxal, you accuse Tipereth on the basis that Negi's signature would be a motive for him. However, Negi's behavior before his death does not actually implicate anyone as a suspect. Not only is your accusation weak, it's also completely unfair for Tipereth. That is the kind of reasoning that the Dark Templar would want to see.

Tipereth, if anything could be called inherently bad, it would be labelling someone as a liability without even considering their actions. True, the Lavarinth of Eridun made some bad calls. But this is Yellowtown. We don't do that sort of thing here. Honestly, though, what do we have to gain by lynching someone on grounds that they are inherently bad?

I'm rather puzzled. We started with two Observers. Is it really possible that both of them had been killed? Perhaps the Praetor could verify this for us. Then again, he could have also been killed. What about the High Templar? Can any of them help us out?

We may have been too hasty in voting for a no lynch. While I agreed with the sentiment, I didn't bold my vote (the tally proves it). We discussed so little during the first day, and it gave the Dark Templar an opportunity to vote to achieve a majority so that we'd call it a day. Regardless of how we arrived here, we are operating under the assumption that all of our key people are dead. This is not a good situation.
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We began with 2 Observers, 1 Arbiter, 1 Praetor, and 1 High Templar, right?  At worst we still have... one of them.  But I doubt the Dark Templar were that lucky.  I think there's still hope.

To the remaining people/person with a helpful role: we need something awesome to happen, like now.  If we lynch incorrectly today, the Dark Templar could very well outnumber us tomorrow.
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Hey guys- I had surgery on my shoulder, I'm on Oxycodine and I shouldn't be up right now.. But the show must go on:

I don't know what Tipereth was saying thar for, but it greatly gained my suspicion. But as much as I would love to vote for Tipereth for his personal vendetta against me, the large rebuttle by Thalraxal worried me more.  That, and it just seemed hasty to get a possible load of accussation off himself, especially after I read Mucky's explanation. With that said, I am sure that I should be available later for more discussion.

Perhaps the Oxycodine will allow me to vision the future! Now to pass out.
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Well, I think any basis we use to evaluate someone here is going to be kind of shaky.

Also, I've only played one game and I read the other thread, but every time an Observer revealed himself he got killed right off the bat.  Plus, anyone can say they're an observer.
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What, are you trying to scare off our Observer?  (If it still exists... ugh.)

We can't afford to play it safe anymore.  Like I said, one more mistake and we might just be toast.  If an Observer is alive, and knows anything, even if it's just who's not guilty, they need to tell us.  Personally, I can't help but wonder about someone who seems so unconcerned about our fragile situation...


(By the way, I'm leaving for a trip early Friday.  I'll be back Sunday, or Monday at the latest.  Many apologies for my soon-to-be absence!)
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I think I'll be lenient on the deadlines, especially with these unexpected absences and whatnot.
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Aekenon wrote: What, are you trying to scare off our Observer?  (If it still exists... ugh.)

We can't afford to play it safe anymore.  Like I said, one more mistake and we might just be toast.  If an Observer is alive, and knows anything, even if it's just who's not guilty, they need to tell us.  Personally, I can't help but wonder about someone who seems so unconcerned about our fragile situation...


(By the way, I'm leaving for a trip early Friday.  I'll be back Sunday, or Monday at the latest.  Many apologies for my soon-to-be absence!)
I'm not unconcerned, I'm just pointing that out so people are aware of how they behaved.
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Aekenon wrote: Yikes, sorry to hear about his hospitalization.  What was the matter?

Anyway, that Negi thing's just not a very valid argument, in my opinion.  If he was killed for personal reasons, then the suspect list stretches much longer than just Tipereth. :P

Though... Tip, Thalraxal also called you on your comment against Lav, and you didn't really address that.  Perhaps there isn't much to say, but...
Well, there's no rule that people won't kill for any reason they want.  When I consider suspects I consider everything, you can't just isolate some facts in a vacuum.  You have to consider the person's personality, and so on, things that aren't just in the game rules.  In other words, METAGAMING! /shameless plug
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Tip's made a good point.  I withdraw my accusation and I apologize.  I'm just grasping at straws here.  Our Observers remain silent or are dead, and we've had no one showing and real, solid and suspicious behaviour.  We're running blind here and it's getting frustrating.  We need to lynch a Dark Templar tonight or else, but there's no solid clues anywhere.
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Yeah, we do need to lynch one.  Unfortunately, I am not of any special roles that would allow me to discover anything.  I am just a plain zealot.
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Now that ShadowFlare posted, I do remember that everyone dead so far went right after her last game...
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