Windows Vista DEP closes StarCraft

[SuicidalAngel]

I bought a new pc recently and it's great and all, except one thing. I can't mod or use mods. Every time I try, the Data Execution Prevention kicks in and shuts StarCraft down. I'm not really good with Vista yet(used windows 98 since 1999) so any idea on how to stop this? I've tried some basic things like stopping the DEP for StarCraft, and all my mod tools, but it still won't work. Any ideas?

[Lavarinth]

Remind me not to buy Windows Vista. I'm not sure- But I heard it's going to "automatically" prevent a lot of "hacking" and "illegal" usage without your choice.

[SuicidalAngel]

Remind me not to buy Windows Vista. I'm not sure- But I heard it's going to "automatically" prevent a lot of "hacking" and "illegal" usage without your choice.

Oh hell yes it does. It took me 2 days just to get SC installed, not to mention all the other stuff I had in my old PC. I'm about to go back to 98. At least when I told it to do or not do something, it didn't act like a 3 year old and fight my instructions like a mad cow. But on the positive side, Vista has cool things like these mini views of whats on the toolbar. Still, not worth losing the abiltiy to mod though. P.S. I gave up on getting mods to work, if you read this, keep going and don't worry about it.

[Lavarinth]

I wonder if anyone has done research on the complication of Vista's security with StarCraft and WarCraft modding to know if one day, upgrading to Vista will not lead to trouble.

[UntamedLoli]

I've been dualbooting vista for several days and havn't had any messages about DEP doing anything to modding related programs even while running my mods with firegraft, make sure you have it set to "Turn on DEP for essential Windows programs and services only" which is the defaut setting or you probobly will have problems with it since it hasn't changed from XP SP2.

System from the Control Panel, its not any different xp/vista.

[Lavarinth]

HKS, you mind elaborating what happens when you dual boot with Vista? I know in previous versions it's literally two operating systems/shells on one harddrive.. But here do the programs have to be installed per OS, and if by chance you boot XP, do you lose the graphical enhancements from Vista? (Thus another reason as to why not get Vista...)

[Ardis]

If you dual boot any two operating systems, they shouldn't be able to mess with each other, they probably won't even know about each other for the most part, so all of the features will still work. Now, for example, if Windows Vista were to mess with any other operating system you were dual booting with, then Microsoft would be in for a bunch of lawsuits.

Personally, I don't want to use Vista (I got a free copy from my computer networking class,) but one day I will have to use it because there won't be enough new games that still run on XP.

[UntamedLoli]

Pretty much all you do is make another primary partition out of your HD's main one and install it there so it has its own space to occupy away from any other OSes you might have, after its install you basicly get a select thingy before windows starts to pick what you which you want to boot up.

To be basic they each have their own playground to play in, isolated from eachother.

[IskatuMesk]

To be basic they each have their own playground to play in, isolated from eachother.

Kind of like retards.

[Infiltrator]

If you wanna be correct, remove the "kind of" part.

[Freakohollik]

Vista seems to be Microsoft's worst OS aside from Windows ME. It's been in development forever and I still don't see why it's supposed better than XP. All it seems to have are DirectX desktop graphics that take up half a gig of RAM just to run. Then there are a ton of other problems which I don't feel I need to go into.

On the dual booting topic, I was dual booting Windows 98 and Windows XP for a while. XP is a lot more secure and robust than 98, but 98 ran better most of the time. So I'd use 98 for most stuff, then XP for anything that wouldn't run on 98 and in case something happened to 98. Acutally something did happen to the HDD that 98 was on which was also the primary HDD. It couldn't be read from very well and had lots of trouble booting. So I'd try to boot several times until it worked then run my computer off of my good hard drive on using XP. Then I wouldn't ever turn my computer off for weeks for fear that it wouldn't start up again.
Good times.

[Infiltrator]

Hahaha, nice. But do you mean two different disks or just two partitions? If you had two disks, you shouldn't have had a problem starting the XP one. The loader should have just gone, yup XP disk, gotcha. And I've found, running XP now for several years, even on a horribly low-end computer (you don't want to know how bad,) that most things work just fine on XP. Only Renegade: Battle For Jacob's Star doesn't run. But it used to... And of course things that require a Video Card to run don't work.
For the most part though, because of the compatibility thingy in XP, you can make pretty much anything run on it. Or so I've found.

[Freakohollik]

Hahaha, nice. But do you mean two different disks or just two partitions? If you had two disks, you shouldn't have had a problem starting the XP one. The loader should have just gone, yup XP disk, gotcha.
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Yeah it was two different disks. The problem was that the primary was failing and often it couldn't read enough of the boot area to get me to the point where I could choose to boot XP from the good disk.

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And I've found, running XP now for several years, even on a horribly low-end computer (you don't want to know how bad,) that most things work just fine on XP. Only Renegade: Battle For Jacob's Star doesn't run. But it used to... And of course things that require a Video Card to run don't work.
For the most part though, because of the compatibility thingy in XP, you can make pretty much anything run on it. Or so I've found.

Yeah thats true mostly. It's just that my XP disk was quite small (7 gigs) and everything was already on my 98 drive. So I sometimes had to play things from 98. However, later on I figured out a cool workaround where I would install twice, once for each OS, but pick the same spot on a drive. So it would just install over itself but the registry values specific to each OS wouldn't change so I could actually play the game on both OSes while only having it installed in one spot. But since XP uses the NTFS file system and 98 uses FAT32 and doesn't support NTFS, my 98 drive couldn't get data from my XP drive, so if I wanted to get files off of my XP drive and I was running 98, I needed to reboot into XP. So I mostly just put everything on the 98 drive even though it had the crappy file system.

[Infiltrator]

You could have simply taken the busted disk out, or switched it to slave and the other to primary. But yeah, with only a 7GB disk for your XP... :/
Though I'm pretty sure there's some way to repair the boot area. Yeah, I remember, you chuck in your XP disk, and run the recovery console, and run FIXBOOT. But then again that might only work for NTFS.
But yeah, a bit late talking about this now, i'n'it?

[Shadow Stalker]

yeah about the first thing everyone was talking about im having the same trouble with vista closing a modded starcraft. just out of curiousity how the heck do you dual-boot xp and vista?