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Affection list

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:51 am
by RazorclawX
Affection values go down by 1 every time the Hero in question is killed in combat.

    Event Flag 0 // Dragon Horn
        + Shizuka 3
        + Ziel 3
        + Abolisher 3
    else
        - Shizuka 2
   
    Event Flag 1 // Iron Troll of Book 2
        + Hikaru 3
        + Johan 3
        + Sazabi 3
    else
        - Sazabi 2
        - Six 1
   
    Event Flag 2 // Hikaru's Copy won Book 2
        - Hikaru 5
        - Shizuka 3
        - Kurumi 5
   
    Event Flag 3 // Won Book 2
        + All 5
    else
        - Hikaru 2
        - Shizuka 2
   
    Event Flag 4 // Scaldar spared the Murlocs of Book 3
        + Hikaru 1
        + Shizuka 1
        + Kurumi 2
        + Six 5
        + Scaldar 3
        + Scaldar2 3
    else
        - Kurumi 1
        - Six 7
   
    Event Flag 5 // Bannon retrieved the Guffa Leaves
        + Sazabi 3
        - Yue Fang 4
    else
        - Sazabi 2
        + Yue Fang 3
   
    Event Flag 6 // Bannon retrieved the Human Heads
        + Sazabi 5
        - Yue Fang 8
        - Hikaru 3
        - Johan 1
        - Nekurow 2
        - Shizuka 1
        - Kurumi 4
    else
        - Sazabi 3
        + Yue Fang 5
   
    Event Flag 7 // Yue Fang's elaborate Cinder trap worked
        + Yue Fang 8
        + Hikaru 5
        + Shizuka 3
        + Ziel 5
        + Kurumi 3
        - Johan 2
        - Six 3
    else
        - Yue Fang 5
        - Shizuka 3
        - Kurumi 2
        + Hikaru 3
        + Johan 4
        + Six 5
   
    Event Flag 8 // Nekurow ignores the Murlocs of Book 4
        + Six 5
        + Nekurow 5
        + Hikaru 2
    else
        - Six 7
   
    Event Flag 9 // Nekurow destroyes the Black Moon Siege machines
        + Hikaru 3
        + Nekurow 5
        - Shizuka 2
        - Abolisher 7
    else
        + Shizuka 3
        + Abolisher 5
        - Nekurow 3
   
    Event Flag 10 // Nekurow finds a cure for Emperor Radik
        + Nekurow 4
        + Hikaru 3
        + Kurumi 4
        - Shizuka 2
    else
        + Shizuka 5
        - Nekurow 3
   
    Event Flag 11 // Nekurow destroys the Eclipse Cannon
        + Hikaru 2
        + Nekurow 6
        + Kurumi 1
        - Shizuka 2
        - Abolisher 7
    else
        + Shizuka 3
        + Abolisher 5
        - Nekurow 3
   
    Event Flag 12 // Lord Darkscythe the Soul Reaper killed in first mission
        + Hikaru 4
        + Johan 4
        + Nekurow 4
    else
        + Shizuka 3
   
    Event Flag 13 // Secret level of Book 1 unlocked-- the Miranda mission
        + Hikaru 3
        + Johan 3
        + Nekurow 3
        + Miranda 7
   
    Event Flag 14 // Veranda, the overpowered Zande, is slain in Book 1
        + Shizuka 2
        + Hikaru 2
   
    Event Flag 15 // Bloodreaver trolls in Book 2 are wiped out
        + Shizuka 1
        - Sazabi 3
   
    Event Flag 16 // Plague Treant in Book 2 is killed-- makes Murlocs happy
        + Six 5
        + Shizuka 2
    else
        - Six 7
   
    Event Flag 17 // Yue Fang saves a Jin Caravan; must fail the Bannon missions
        + Yue Fang 5
        + Hikaru 3
        + Shizuka 2
        + Kurumi 4
   
    Event Flag 18 // Unlocks Kanna Special Class
        + Shizuka 1
   
    Event Flag 19 // Unlocks Miranda Special Class
        + Miranda 3
   
    Event Flag 20 // Book 3 Shizu Costume lowest bit
        + Shizuka 1
    else
        + Shizuka 2
   
    Event Flag 21 // Book 3 Shizu Costume middle bit
        + Shizuka 1
    else
        + Shizuka 2
   
    Event Flag 22 // Book 3 Shizu Costume highest bit
        - Shizuka 1
        + Ziel 4
        + Kasumi 6
    else
        + Shizuka 1
        + Ziel 2
        + Kasumi 3
   
    Event Flag 23 // Kurumi Chaos Ritual in Book 4 succeeds in Banishment
        + Shizuka 3
        + Abolisher 2
        + Kurumi 5
   
    Event Flag 24 // Shizuka subdues Murlocs in Book 4; requires spared first
        + Shizuka 3
        + Abolisher 2
        + Kurumi 2
        - Six 3
    else
        + Abolisher 3
        + Kurumi 1
        + Six 5
   
    Event Flag 25 // Meet up with the Vektra Knights in Book 4
        + Shizuka 2
        + Abolisher 3
   
    Event Flag 26 // Defeated Gorbash when he first appeared
        + Shizuka 1
        + Kasumi 3
        + Abolisher 1
        + Kurumi 2
   
    Event Flag 27 // Shizuka destroyed the Satyr camp when first encountered
        + Shizuka 1
   
    Event Flag 28 // Zande forces switch sides to Black Moon
        + Shizuka 2
        + Abolisher 3
   
    Event Flag 29 // Satyr forces switch sides to Black Moon
        + Shizuka 2
        + Abolisher 3
   
    Event Flag 30 // Nara's demon portals destroyed
        + Shizuka 2
        + Abolisher 3
        + Kurumi 2
   
    Event Flag 31 // Protect the Eclipse Cannon successful
        + Shizuka 3
        + Abolisher 5
        + Hikaru 2
        + Kurumi 3
   
    Event Flag 32 // Shizuka accepts Hokuto's aid
        + Hokuto 5
        - Shizuka 5
        + Kasumi 4
    else
        + Hikaru 2
        - Hokuto 5
   
    Event Flag 33 // Watch scene of Galar retreat; must deny Hokuto's Aid
        + Shizuka 2
   
    Event Flag 34 // Shizuka gets defeated by Sorana
        - Shizuka 15
        + Kasumi 4
   
    Event Flag 35 // Shizuka puts on the Bikini of Invincibility
        - Shizuka 5
        - Yue Fang 3
        + Hokuto 4
        + Ziel 2
        + Kasumi 3
   
    Event Flag 36 // Kurumi accepts Hokuto's aid
        + Hokuto 5
        - Shizuka 3
        - Kurumi 8
    else
        + Hikaru 2
        - Hokuto 4
        + Shizuka 3
   
    Event Flag 37 // Shizuka decides to let off Kasumi easy for her betrayal
        + Kurumi 5
        + Kasumi 10
        + Shizuka 1
        + Hikaru 3
        - Ziel 3
    else
        - Kasumi 20
        - Kurumi 3
        + Ziel 6
        + Abolisher 4
        + Hikaru 2
        + Shizuka 3
   
    Event Flag 38 // Siege machines deploy successful against Metallus army
        + Shizuka 1
        + Ziel 2
        + Kurumi 1
        + Abolisher 7
        - Six 3
    else
        + Six 4
        - Abolisher 5
   
    Event Flag 39 // Complete Zule's side quest Book 5-1
        + Hikaru 3
        - Yue Fang 2
        - Ziel 2
   
    Event Flag 40 // Complete Gunther's side quest Book 5-1
        + Hikaru 4
   
    Event Flag 41 // Complete Jenna's side quest Book 5-1
        + Hikaru 4
   
    Event Flag 42 // Complete Zule's side quest Book 5-2: lizards hate you
        + Hikaru 3
        - Yue Fang 2
        - Sazabi 2
        - Kurumi 1
        - Ziel 1
   
    Event Flag 43 // Complete Gunther's side quest Book 5-2: lizards respect you
        + Hikaru 5
        + Sazabi 4
   
    Event Flag 44 // Complete Jenna's side quest Book 5-2: lizards hate you
        + Hikaru 3
        - Sazabi 2
   
    Event Flag 45 // Killed Prince David in 5-2
        + Hikaru 2
        + Johan 4
        + Nekurow 3
        + Miranda 4
   
    Event Flag 46 // Yue Fang's raid on Azorbia Army is successful
        + Yue Fang 6
        + Ziel 4
        - Hikaru 3
        - Six 5
        + Shizuka 1
        + Miranda 2
   
    Event Flag 47 // Complete subquest to turn the Gnolls
        + Johan 3
        + Sazabi 4
        + Nekurow 2
   
    Event Flag 48 // Complete subquest to bribe the Goblins
        + Johan 3
        + Sazabi 2
        - Nekurow 1
    else
        + Six 3
   
    Event Flag 49 // Complete subquest to turn the Kobolds
        + Johan 3
        + Sazabi 4
        + Nekurow 2
   
    Event Flag 50 // Hikaru accepts Hokuto's aid
        - Hikaru 8
        - Shizuka 5
        - Kurumi 3
        + Hokuto 8
    else
        - Hokuto 5
        + Kurumi 5
        + Shizuka 3
        + Hikaru 3
   
    Event Flag 51 // Defeated Goblins in 5-4; must not ally with them
        + Sazabi 7
        + Nekurow 2
        + Six 4
        + Johan 3
   
    Event Flag 52 // Rescued all 40 people from the flood in 5-6
        + Hikaru 5
        + Johan 4
        + Miranda 4
        + Nekurow 3
        + Shizuka 3
        + Kurumi 5
        + Kasumi 5
        + Yue Fang 3
    else
        - Hikaru 3
        - Johan 1
        - Miranda 2
        - Nekurow 1
        - Shizuka 7
        - Kurumi 3
        - Kasumi 2
        - Yue Fang 2
   
    Event Flag 53 // Yue Fang destroys the Wind Altar
        + Yue Fang 7
        + Ziel 4
        + Miranda 2
        - Hikaru 2
        - Six 4
   
    Event Flag 54 // Yue Fang destroys the Tribes base
        + Yue Fang 5
        + Ziel 3
        + Miranda 3
        - Hikaru 1
        - Sazabi 4
        - Six 3
   
    Event Flag 55 // Yue Fang destroys the Lizard base; lizards like Azorbia
        + Yue Fang 5
        + Ziel 3
        + Miranda 2
        - Sazabi 2
        - Six 4
   
    Event Flag 56 // Discovered the ruins of Shizuka's airship in 5-2
        + Hikaru 1
        + Johan 1
        + Kurumi 2
        + Miranda 1
   
    Event Flag 57 // Unused; same as Event Flag 52

   
    Event Flag 58 // Discovered Eclipse Orb
        + Shizuka 1
        + Nekurow 3
   
    Event Flag 59 // Discovered Twilight Orb
        + Shizuka 1
   
    Event Flag 60 // Discovered Gravity Orb
        + Shizuka 1
        + Abolisher 3
   
    Event Flag 61 // Discovered Blight Orb
        + Shizuka 1
   
    Event Flag 62 // Discovered Death Orb (requires all Obelisks activated
        + Shizuka 2
        + Hikaru 3
        + Kurumi 3
   
    Event Flag 63 // Discovered Soul Orb
        + Shizuka 1
   
    Event Flag 64 // Kasumi attacked by a tentacle in Book 5 secret level
        - Kasumi 15
        + Johan 3
   
    Event Flag 65 // Kurumi attacked by a tentacle in Book 5 secret level
        - Kurumi 15
        + Kasumi 8
        + Johan 3
   
    Event Flag 66 // Found Nel in Book 5 secret level
        + Shizuka 1
        + Miranda 5
   

In addition, in Book 6, when Kurumi is given the choice to shoot someone:
        Shoot Hikaru: - Hikaru 5
        Shoot Shizuka: + Shizuka 5  // this is something Shizuka expects her to do
        Shoot Hokuto: - Hokuto 5

Re: Affection list

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:54 pm
by Davzz
Interesting read.

Six looks like he takes a beating in a lot of the events in terms of points for whatever reason. Hokuto doesn't have much opportunity for getting a high value without having to use the dud classes too, Abolisher points seem to really depend more on what you NOT do with Nekurow.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:33 am
by RazorclawX
Davzz wrote: Six looks like he takes a beating in a lot of the events in terms of points for whatever reason.
It's generally when you pick events that are at the expense of Murlocs, or events that are beneficial to the Jin Empire, and there are a lot of those. Similarly Yue Fang generally goes down on events at the expense of the Jin Empire.

Abolisher points seem to really depend more on what you NOT do with Nekurow.
More to the point, it has to do whether or not his toys get blown up or fail, so nearly all his events are in Book 4.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:02 pm
by Theia_Loki
Johan's affection goes up when either Kasumi or Kurumi (or both) are attacked by a tentacle? And here I only ended up getting Shizuka attacked by a tentacle.

But I'm curious as to what the "Shizuka Costume bit" events happen to be referring to. Does it have anything to do with the shopping she, Ziel and Kasumi do at the start of Book 3?

Re: Affection list

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:48 pm
by Sokaaa
Does dying with Sorona (book 4) affect the value somehow... like when a character dyes affection goes down by one.
If Sorona dies will Shizuka lose affection points?

Re: Affection list

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:31 am
by Rui
I'm sorry for the thread necromancy, but by putting on the bikini, you mean picking it up or using it for the divine shield effect?
If Shizuka says «pst, I can't wear this garbage», is it because her affection is high or low?

Re: Affection list

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:56 am
by RazorclawX
It's picking it up.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:32 am
by Demoneater
Sry, but for what are the affection points for? I don't get it...do they alter the dialoges or what do they do...?

Re: Affection list

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:33 am
by RazorclawX
It changes some of the dialogue and the ending.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:26 am
by Rui
Well, Shizuka was the one who ended up getting attacked by a tentacle and Deathclaw got angry at the beast and made it attack Nara. But according to the affection list, nothing happens to the affection values. Or did you forget to include it?

Re: Affection list

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:55 am
by Theia_Loki
[quote="Rui"]
Well, Shizuka was the one who ended up getting attacked by a tentacle and Deathclaw got angry at the beast and made it attack Nara. But according to the affection list, nothing happens to the affection values.
Hmm. Interesting. I don't remember that happening. either that or it was Kasumi/Kevin who got tentacled.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:18 am
by RazorclawX
Rui wrote: Well, Shizuka was the one who ended up getting attacked by a tentacle and Deathclaw got angry at the beast and made it attack Nara. But according to the affection list, nothing happens to the affection values. Or did you forget to include it?
It doesn't affect Shizuka, but it does affect Kasumi and Kurumi. Shizuka doesn't get any change because having that happen is an automatic win for the encounter.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:48 am
by Rui
A question: being Count Zule such a relevant character, one would expect him to have affection as well. Why doesn't he?

Also, I've noticed Shizuka speaks to Abolisher in quite a dis-pleasant tone in Book 6, calling him fish-face and idiot. Why?

Re: Affection list

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:48 am
by RazorclawX
Count Zule was always going to have the same fate no matter what you did. Scaldar was originally going to be affected as well, but it turned out in the end that there was practically no way to change his affection level.

Shizuka pretty much treats Abolisher the same way she treats Deathclaw.

Re: Affection list

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:26 am
by Rui
After replaying the books all over, Six ended up in a block of ice on the bottom of the North District again. I suppose there is another end for him (if yes, what is it?)? Does Kuth'Kullen's own affection intervene in Six's faith?