MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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Re: MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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mAc Chaos wrote: Now that ShadowFlare posted, I do remember that everyone dead so far went right after her last game...
Ricky did not, and also AA7 did not vote to lynch me at any time.  Negi did not initially vote again to lynch me either, but only changed as he waited for my next response.
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Re: MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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Since I do not know exactly when I will be waking up tomorrow, I must cast a vote: Due to Thalraxal's large attempt to accuse Tipereth after Tipereth shamelessly accussed me, I am following suit with my gut feeling and after reading a few other member's posts that Thalraxal is a Dark Templar and I vote to lynch Thalraxal. I am sure I am not alone here, and this could limit the deaths to one a night, which would be a great step forward,
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Re: MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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ShadowFlare wrote:
mAc Chaos wrote: Now that ShadowFlare posted, I do remember that everyone dead so far went right after her last game...
Ricky did not, and also AA7 did not vote to lynch me at any time.  Negi did not initially vote again to lynch me either, but only changed as he waited for my next response.
Oh, right.  I forgot he just accused you without following through.  But Negi did.  Oh well, nobody knows anyway.
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mAc Chaos wrote:
ShadowFlare wrote:
mAc Chaos wrote: Now that ShadowFlare posted, I do remember that everyone dead so far went right after her last game...
Ricky did not, and also AA7 did not vote to lynch me at any time.  Negi did not initially vote again to lynch me either, but only changed as he waited for my next response.
Oh, right.  I forgot he just accused you without following through.  But Negi did.  Oh well, nobody knows anyway.
I really don't think ShadowFlare should be accussed of being someone in a previous game.
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Lavarinth wrote: Since I do not know exactly when I will be waking up tomorrow, I must cast a vote: Due to Thalraxal's large attempt to accuse Tipereth after Tipereth shamelessly accussed me, I am following suit with my gut feeling and after reading a few other member's posts that Thalraxal is a Dark Templar and I vote to lynch Thalraxal. I am sure I am not alone here, and this could limit the deaths to one a night, which would be a great step forward,
Isn't this logic kind of wrong? :P  Tipereth accused you so... Thal's a DT for accusing Tipereth? :P
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By my logic, yes. Tipereth had nothing to go on while I believe Thal's quick remark to "say I'm innocent while claiming Tip is a DT" is q quick aaproach to get his own innocence. I mean just read over some other's thoughts. I'm not the only one that believes this. However, that does not make Tipereth innocent to me as well, but clearly not as guilt-driven as Thalraxal. You guys have less than three hours to vote and this is all the voting that has occured? Or are we stretching it out? I came out of my death bed for you guys =P
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Re: MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

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Lavarinth wrote:
mAc Chaos wrote:
ShadowFlare wrote:
mAc Chaos wrote: Now that ShadowFlare posted, I do remember that everyone dead so far went right after her last game...
Ricky did not, and also AA7 did not vote to lynch me at any time.  Negi did not initially vote again to lynch me either, but only changed as he waited for my next response.
Oh, right.  I forgot he just accused you without following through.  But Negi did.  Oh well, nobody knows anyway.
I really don't think ShadowFlare should be accussed of being someone in a previous game.
Wait, so Shadowflare can't be a Dark Templar because she was one last round but I can be?  Yes, the odds are pretty darn low for being a Dark Templar two rounds in a row.  I'm aware of that.  I'm sorry if I've been abit suspicious, but I'm just not used to being an ordinary zealot.  I can't investigate people and I can't plot their demise.  I just get to sit around and be paranoid. 

I'm just feeling alittle lost and aimless right now and I'm not sure what to do.  We've apparently got no Observers left, so we're all running around blind here.  Yeah, Tipereth as a Dark Templar was abit of a leap based on the evidence I had.  But I'm just struggling to find some sort of clue that'll lead us to the Dark Templar, and so far I've come out empty handed.

My accusation of Tipereth followed some logic, but your accusation of me seems to comes out of the blue.  I guess I have been alittle suspcious, but that's just a side-effect of having nothing to hide here.  If I was a Dark Templar, I wouldn't be suspicious.

(by the way Lav, I hope you feel better soon!)

Anyway, I guess right now we've got four major suspects:

Tipereth- Suggested lynching Lav for the benefit of Yellowtown.  Has motive for killing Negi.  Accused by Thalraxal, but accusation was later withdrawn.
Thalraxal- Was a Dark Templar last round.  Defended Lav.  Issued a weak argument to lynch Tip, and later withdrew his accusation.  Claims to be a Zealot.  Accused by Lav who has a "gut feeling" that he's a Dark Templar.
Shadowflare- Was a Dark Templar last round.  Has potential motive for killing AA7, Frozty, and Negi (as they all helped to lynch her last round).  Accused by mAc.
Lav- Absent due to surgery.  Defended Shadowflare.  Issued random accusation of Thalraxal and voted to lynch Thalraxal.  Tip suggesting lynching him for the benefit of Yellowtown.

So, chances are one of those people is a Dark Templar.  Although it's certainly not Thalraxal, but it would be dishonest of me to not put my name on that list.  Anyone got any other names that should be up there?
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Lavarinth wrote: By my logic, yes. Tipereth had nothing to go on while I believe Thal's quick remark to "say I'm innocent while claiming Tip is a DT" is q quick aaproach to get his own innocence. I mean just read over some other's thoughts. I'm not the only one that believes this. However, that does not make Tipereth innocent to me as well, but clearly not as guilt-driven as Thalraxal. You guys have less than three hours to vote and this is all the voting that has occured? Or are we stretching it out? I came out of my death bed for you guys =P
Milldawg is going to "be lenient" with the times.  So we can wait until Aekenon or you are ready before we finish everything up.
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I probably won't wait for Aekenon since he'll be gone for like two whole days. But I won't  immediately declare nighttime right at the deadline if not everyone (except Aekenon) has voted. Basically I just want to give enough time for everyone to make a good decision instead of hastily voting randomly because they're out of time. I'm actually beginning to think the deadline might have been a bad idea...
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:P Make up your mind.
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Okay, right now is when the deadline would be, but ONLY ONE PERSON has actually voted. So I will allow an additional 24 HOURS for voting, but COME ON GUYS GET GOING. I know Aekenon probably won't be able to vote but I'd like to see everyone else at least do SOMEthing.
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NOTHING is stopping you guys from voting. I'm drugged up and still did. It's majority anyway, so Aek's vote may not even matter. I highly suggest everyone else still have a deadline.

That's yet another lengthy post Thal. To sum it up, your logic was based on.. Signatures? Really? And Tip's based on previous games? None of those are logical. However, acting highly defendant of me just seemed all too "high and mighty savior" when you were defending me with nothing to defend me with in the first place just like anyone else. I'm not accussing you because of the previous game, you are stating that  am, otherwise I would also accuse Shadow but I did not because she has done nothing out of suspicion unlike yourself.

You later withdrawl your accussation towards Tip? Yet more suspicion on Tip as well, but primarily on you first sir.

I'll put it this way: I believe if you are lynched, we will benefit causing only the possibility of one death max; and if this fails, I believe I will die tonight by your hands.
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Hey, I did say that my argument against Tip was weak, there is a reason why I later withdrew it.  My list just sums up the arguments against each person and is does not reflect the views of myself (maybe I should add that disclaimer to my post...).  And you've got it backwards, I was saying that you were saying that Shadowflare can't be a Dark Templar because she was one last round, and wondering why that didn't apply to me. 

Right now you, Tip, Shadowflare and I are the only ones who have been suggested as a possible lynching target (Tip never accused you of being a Dark Templar) or as Dark Templar (Tip by me, Shadowflare by mAc and me by you).  I think that atleast one person on that list is a Dark Templar, it's just a matter of figuring out who.  I know atleast one of the four people on the suspect list are clean and I suspect that there's atleast one more innocent on that list.  If not two.

Our goal here is to kill one Dark Templar, which is why it's helpful to focus on the smaller list than the whole group.  I know it's not me, I think that Tip is clean now, and I'm not really suspisious of Shadowflare yet.  So that leaves you as my #1 suspect right now.  So, it might just be an urge for self-preservation talking but, for the protection of Yellowtown and in the memory of Eridun, I vote to lynch Lavarinth
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I think that Tipereth is more suspicious than Lavarinth.
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mAc Chaos wrote: I think that Tipereth is more suspicious than Lavarinth.
Which is why his accusation to lynch me only makes Thalraxal an obvious Dark Templar. For someone he immediatley defended me from Tip, I like how you 360'd the moment I brought suspicion to your doorstep. You're no Zealot, you don't even have a good story and you write PARAGRAPHS of attempts to be innocent- That's guilt right there.
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