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Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:58 am
by omega20
Revan wrote:
Lavarinth wrote:
Doctor Doack wrote: carriers
Plague.
Thalraxal wrote: I've always been a big fan of High Templar.  Psi Storm and Hallucination can be so much fun. ;D
Plague.
WB wrote: Reavers
Plague.
Jadefang wrote: The Science Vessel!
Plague.
The thing is, you wouldn't even kill a marine with that. In fact the defilers are so worthless that they can't even kill a terran civilian alone. ::)
Hehe, Revan is right. However, this can be quite useful if we want to weaken a Protoss base, bearing in mind that the Protoss can't regenerate their HP unless they have an Terran ally with medics and that their buildings can't be repaired. ;)

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:01 am
by Taeradun
defiler plagued units @ 1 HP + mutalisk bouncing attack = owned

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:07 am
by omega20
Taeradun wrote: defiler plagued units @ 1 HP + mutalisk bouncing attack = owned
Right. And if along the Mutalisks we bring some Guardians and an army composed of Zerglings, Hydralisks and Ultralisks... total destruction. ;D

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:13 am
by Aekenon
Dark Templar.  I mean, c'mon!

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:59 am
by Revan
Yes, of course, the Defilers are good if they are used correctly, just like the other spellcasters. It's just funny to see that even a mere zergling can kill more enemy than a "kickass" Defiler who is supposed to be high in the hierarchy. It can only kill units by consuming them, but it only works on your own units.

Now that I think about it, they should be able to eat enemy units, with a cooldown. If they eat a zergling/marine/ultralisk then the consume spell would receive a 30/45/200 second cooldown and would restore 25/30/max energy (mechanical and flying units are considered uneatable). In that case it (or its replacement) would be an awesome unit in Sc2. Just an idea.
omega20 wrote:
Taeradun wrote: defiler plagued units @ 1 HP + mutalisk bouncing attack = owned
Right. And if along the Mutalisks we bring some Guardians and an army composed of Zerglings, Hydralisks and Ultralisks... total destruction. ;D
That strategy always wins.  :) Especially if you can micro everyone to attack the right thing.
Aekenon wrote: Dark Templar.  I mean, c'mon!
They are the coolest Protoss units, it's just too bad that a good player can easily detect them.

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:22 am
by Lavarinth
No Defiler is stupid enough to attack alone. Obviously he'd bring his squad of Zerg.
Revan
Plague.

*Sends squad after Revan.*

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:29 pm
by Jadefang
Obviously every unit has its strengths and weaknesses. I am not saying defilers are bad units. But when it comes to the coolest finishing move, there can only be one unit: The Science Vessel.

The most elegant way to kill (living) enemy units is to grab a bunch of science vessels, self-irradiate, and then fly over/through them. They are getting killed without triggering the "your forces are under attack" message. With three ships, you can e.g. kill dozens of drones in with just one fly-by and negate the whole enemy economy. That is why I truly like the science vessel.

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:03 pm
by Mr.
Shittle

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:06 am
by chris
irradiate is just like plague... only it actually kills.

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:09 am
by Meta
Either you Defiler-bashing people are all making fun or you really don't understand Starcraft at all. :P
defiler plagued units @ 1 HP + mutalisk bouncing attack = owned
Hehe yeah, I remember watching a replay where a pro gamer plagued like 6 Science Vessels and then sent a bunch of Mutas (like 3 or 4) and killed all the Vessels at once.

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:32 am
by IskatuMesk
carriers

sorry but nothing can defeat the carrier

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:36 am
by omega20
Jadefang wrote: Obviously every unit has its strengths and weaknesses. I am not saying defilers are bad units. But when it comes to the coolest finishing move, there can only be one unit: The Science Vessel.

The most elegant way to kill (living) enemy units is to grab a bunch of science vessels, self-irradiate, and then fly over/through them. They are getting killed without triggering the "your forces are under attack" message. With three ships, you can e.g. kill dozens of drones in with just one fly-by and negate the whole enemy economy. That is why I truly like the science vessel.
Perhaps you have a part of reason, but this strategy is a little suicide, given the cost of the science vessel. You must think this: If the enemy main Hive/CC/ Nexus is defended by many Spore Colonies/Missile turrets/Photon Cannons, your science vessels will be destroyed by them and you expose yourself to stay with only a few resources. The enemy can exploit this to send you a devastating attack that will defeat you. :P
Doctor Doack wrote: carriers

sorry but nothing can defeat the carrier
A wave of Scourges, along with a strike force formed by Mutalisks and Devourers can put a quick and painful end to your Carriers and your economy.

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:42 am
by Revan
Lavarinth wrote: No Defiler is stupid enough to attack alone. Obviously he'd bring his squad of Zerg.
Revan
Plague.

*Sends squad after Revan.*
Damn. I must escape.
Either you Defiler-bashing people are all making fun or you really don't understand Starcraft at all.
The first.  ;) Medics are also unable to kill anything, yet they are so useful, with them the infantry units can kill more enemy units before they die etc. Defiler using dark swarm on hydras for example=good.

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:47 am
by Aekenon
omega20 wrote: Perhaps you have a part of reason, but this strategy is a little suicide, given the cost of the science vessel. You must think this: If the enemy main Hive/CC/ Nexus is defended by many Spore Colonies/Missile turrets/Photon Cannons, your science vessels will be destroyed by them and you expose yourself to stay with only a few resources. The enemy can exploit this to send you a devastating attack that will defeat you. :P
Huh?  If you have a decent economy going (like say, more than one base) Science Vessels aren't that big of a deal to build.  Seems like it would be foolhardy to assume your enemy is weak just because he threw a couple of them at you.

Doctor Doack wrote: carriers

sorry but nothing can defeat the carrier
Carriers may be a powerful unit, but man... I can't get behind a unit that refuses to do its own dirty work.  Sending in small fighters to their demise, while staying safely out of harm's way?  That's just cowardly !!

Re: whats your favorite starcraft unit?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:50 am
by IskatuMesk
carrier just kite scourge gg

mutalisks get raped unless you have a stupid amount of them in which case I'd have more carriers gg

devourers are pretty tough but too slow and by the time you've got enough of those I have an amount of carriers which may be considered a mass

anything on the ground I just float over water ggnore enjoy your extinction at the hands of starvation fuckers

1v1 carrier wins everything besides bc but with bc I just jump into hyperspace LOL DENIED NIGZ