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How should we devise said plan?

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Yeah, there's way too many people for us to baselessly accuse, lynch and end up being correct. The only people who should be coming out right now are:

A) The Praetor, if an Observer was killed (so we're not waiting for one to come out when they're dead)

B) The Observer(s), if they found a Dark Templar, at which point the High Templar should be able to verify with the information they have.

There's a very low chance that the Dark Templar would've killed informative roles on the first night. Ergo, if someone comes out today, they're probably telling the truth. Arbiters should not come out ever. Likewise, the Praetor should never reveal if an Arbiter was killed. Coming out as a Zealot/Judicator/Warrier/whatever would be of no benefit to ourselves and would be giving valuable information to the Dark Templar.

Also:

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I all of a sudden want to get a Death Note avatar. Any suggestions?

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I am posting in this thread for the sole purpose of saying that Arcan has the greatest sig that I have ever seen in my life.  That is all.

Frozty wrote: How should we devise said plan?

Well, we could always abstain.

But, assuming we're not going to...  We need a way to draw out the information from the important people without getting them killed, and being sure that it's not an imposter, or at least having a way of getting the Dark Templar after they are killed.

Like, maybe if an Observer managed to find a Dark Templar tonight, they could reveal it.  The Arbiter can protect them that night.  Or if they die then we know we're on the right track.

The only problem is a Dark Templar could just be like, "Hey, I'm an Observer."

Maybe if we all came out pretty much now with our roles.  Eventually I noticed they all come out anyway, and that's how everyone figured out what was going on last game.  If we have the High Templar reveal himself, we can then begin confirming Observers.  Someone can prove if they're an Observer by stating who they detected, and then the HT can confirm if they are right or not.  Odds are low that someone will get away with a lucky guess.  Maybe we can have the Praetor confirm the identities of those killed so far.

EDIT: Damnit Mucky.

mAc Chaos wrote: EDIT: Damnit Mucky.

OWNED

But like I said, the Praetor should stay quiet unless an Observer or High Templar was killed.

But we agree the HT should reveal himself, correct?  We need some way to confirm the Observers.

Only problem is they'll get nuked right away next night unless the Arbiter protects them.

Wait.  How can we be sure the High Templar isn't the impostor?

I suppose it's unlikely, since it would probably create some inconsistencies later for the Dark Templar since they won't truly know what's going on, at which point they'll be cooked.

If we were unlucky and both the Praetor and High Templar died, there probably isn't really any way to know.

mAc Chaos wrote: But we agree the HT should reveal himself, correct?  We need some way to confirm the Observers.

Not unless one of two things happen:

1) A Dark Templar attempts to fake as an Observer

2) A real Observer comes out

If the HT comes out now, the DTs could kill him and then be able to fake as Observers without repercussion. The Praetor wouldn't be able to discern real from fake unless the real ones were already killed. On the other hand, claiming to be the HT may work as effective bait.

Obviously, if anyone is going to be revealed, is should be done one or two at a time, because that way, they could at least be protected for one night.

Or, we could just wait it out one more night to see if we can narrow it down even more?

Well, obviously we don't have the High Templar come out without the Observers.  We need both right now to come out.

Frozty wrote: Obviously, if anyone is going to be revealed, is should be done one or two at a time, because that way, they could at least be protected for one night.

Or, we could just wait it out one more night to see if we can narrow it down even more?

We can still narrow it down to a certain degree tonight.  No need to wait.

Okay, where do we start?

Well, this is what we have so far: if an Observer detected a Dark Templar tonight, they should say so.  Then the High Templar can confirm it for us.

Yes?