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Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:41 am
by Ricky_Honejasi
IskatuMesk wrote:No takers on persistent effects, eh? Very well.

Oh, and every time I start the editor, even multiple times a day, I get this;

Having to log in to the editor constantly is a serious, pointless pain in the ass. I mean I'm more than willing to test alpha software for a community developer but NOT for a company who should have put more than a week into making this fucking thing.
Just to be sure, do you mean that you can't stay connected (editor-wise) thus it shows up again to re-log over and over?

Personally, it's less a problem for me since I only log in if I publish anything. I tend to prefer to test as much as possible in "singleplayer" (via Test Document).

I tend to dislike to stay connected especially considering :
1) You show up up as "online" to others if you are logged in for publishing. Nope, you can't chat with people (except possibly if they are a real ID or so) which is lame.
2) Since you can't be online in SC2 and for publishing at the same time, ill probably have re-log again anyway.

It's #2 that annoys me the most. At times, I want to quickly test specific B.net 2.0 differences that cannot be tested over a Test Document in any fashion (ex : Bank triggers on a new patch version).

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:00 am
by Alevice
During my trial time, I had to log in every single time I opened the editor, not matter wether I wanted to publish anything.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:19 am
by Ricky_Honejasi
Alevice wrote:During my trial time, I had to log in every single time I opened the editor, not matter wether I wanted to publish anything.
Geez and do the trial time is counted during the editor use (which I guess yes if they do force you to log in)?

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:25 am
by IskatuMesk
Alevice> I don't really understand how they work in the first place. I'm still used to SC1 modding mechanics... I have a hard time wrapping my head around things like arrays even though I understand what they are.

Ricky > It asks me to log in every time I start the editor.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:21 pm
by Ricky_Honejasi
IskatuMesk wrote:Alevice> I don't really understand how they work in the first place. I'm still used to SC1 modding mechanics... I have a hard time wrapping my head around things like arrays even though I understand what they are.

Ricky > It asks me to log in every time I start the editor.
It's odd since it never ask me to log in when I start the editor, it always just create an empty 256x256 map and that's it.

As for arrays, it's probably the "programmer" type of array that I did explain to you back in WC3 (although I admit it's a concept that can be hard to understand).

Since I don't feel re-explaining it and I kind of already made WC3 tutorial maps about arrays, here's the attachment of the WC3 maps. While it's obviously trigger-wise in this case but the same relative logic applies to the SC2 Data Editor (with the main difference that instead of referring by index, the array "contains" multiple values).

So the exact map to review is 3-5 for arrays. Although 3-4 can be good to remind you for loops (important as prerequisite if you want to poke SC2 catalog triggers at some point) and 3-1 to 3-3 for general trigger variables if your mind is still in the gutter about them.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:09 pm
by Alevice
IskatuMesk wrote:Alevice> I don't really understand how they work in the first place. I'm still used to SC1 modding mechanics... I have a hard time wrapping my head around things like arrays even though I understand what they are.
Ah, ok. In that case, I am willing to explain you to the best of my knowledge the basis. Do note that I abhro the data Editor and prefer to work through xml, so if you are ok with that feel free to find me through IRC or smth. I am often online past 8pm gmt-6

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:30 pm
by RazorclawX
There's only two instances where I've seen the Galaxy Editor ask to connect to Battle.net

1. You have Check for Updates checked on your Preferences (on by default)

2. You're uploading your map to Battle.net


I've never had problems just using it offline when I didn't want it to connect.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:48 pm
by IskatuMesk
lol I don't have irc :(

RCX> 1. might be the reason, I'll turn that off.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:51 pm
by Alevice
IskatuMesk wrote:lol I don't have irc :(
I think I still have your msn, I will try to pester you there later tonight. Doesn't trillian support irc?

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:21 pm
by IskatuMesk
I think so

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:31 am
by Lavarinth
RazorclawX wrote:There's only two instances where I've seen the Galaxy Editor ask to connect to Battle.net

1. You have Check for Updates checked on your Preferences (on by default)

2. You're uploading your map to Battle.net


I've never had problems just using it offline when I didn't want it to connect.
I have yet to connect to Battle.net, and I have Check for Updates on, but don't have the account filled in.

People complaining about it always connecting are preferences they set themselves.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:38 pm
by IskatuMesk
It's still asking me to log in every time even with auto updates off. wtf m8

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:02 am
by IskatuMesk
so um I was working on my map and went to save, and a bunch of weird random errors, like checksum errors or something, came up. I tried again, same thing. I went to save to a new map name, work. Went ingame, everything I had in the map is destroyed. All 137 megs of my data and everything.

I am not fond of alpha testing your pieces of shit, blizzard.

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:29 am
by Alevice
checked the maps through an mpq viewer?

Re: Actors - wtf dawg

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:54 am
by IskatuMesk
They're 5mb and 200kb in size. They don't have the data anymore.