StarCraft II Official! (Pictures)

[IskatuMesk]

Blizzard is too addicted to hype. Diablo 3 and sc2 were both announced far, far too early. D3 is still like, what, pre-alpha? But I'm pretty sure they did it because of the string of new "RTS"-wannabes that got released (CoH, C&C3, ect) and Blizzard didn't want to fall out of the spotlight. Which would be a bit silly because the original Starcraft is still played more than any other RTS combined.

My anticipation for sc2 burned out years ago. Now I'm not sure if I even want to buy it. I'm not interested in the story or campaign in the least, and I won't be modding it. So eh. I hope d3 turns out good though.

[Legion]

Blizzard is too addicted to hype. Diablo 3 and sc2 were both announced far, far too early. D3 is still like, what, pre-alpha? But I'm pretty sure they did it because of the string of new "RTS"-wannabes that got released (CoH, C&C3, ect) and Blizzard didn't want to fall out of the spotlight. Which would be a bit silly because the original Starcraft is still played more than any other RTS combined.

My anticipation for sc2 burned out years ago. Now I'm not sure if I even want to buy it. I'm not interested in the story or campaign in the least, and I won't be modding it. So eh. I hope d3 turns out good though.

Oh, I want Starcraft 2 for sure, but maybe not upon release. I was really disappointed with the decision to release the game in instalments. But if I were to wait for the whole game, I'd probably be waiting for another 5-7 years.

Diablo 3... Well... Seeing is believing.

[WB]

They've already said why its delayed.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59856

[Legion]

They've already said why its delayed.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59856

Lol, yeah I know.

"The upgraded Battle.net is an integral part of the StarCraft II experience and will be an essential part of all of our games moving forward. This extra development time will be critical to help us realize our vision for the service."

That's what PR people do. Polish up fuck ups. Everybody knows it's not Battle.net.

[Maglok]

You are dissapointed they release it in parts? Every part is a expansion, that is two confirmed expansions. Were you dissapointed when WC3 turned out to have a expansion? I think not!

[Legion]

You are dissapointed they release it in parts? Every part is a expansion, that is two confirmed expansions. Were you dissapointed when WC3 turned out to have a expansion? I think not!

Yes. No, every part is another piece of the game -- there's a difference. The first edition isn't Starcraft 2 vanilla. It's Starcraft 2 episode 1. And yes, I was disappointed because I dislike Warcraft and wish they had turned their attention to Starcraft instead of milking out orcs and evil powerlords!

Two confirmed expansions? More like a confirmed unfinished game and we have to wait at least two years after the release of episode 1 before we can get our hands on Starcraft 2, full version. Way I see it, we'll get SC 2 no sooner than 2012, but by then they'll probably have made up an additional infinite number of reasons to postpone it until 2015. Thank heavens for other game developers. *glances at PS3*

I'm a crybaby, but I don't care. The internet gives me the power to whine. Hee hee.

[mAc Chaos]

Diablo III is what I want, anyway.  SC2 will still be good, but for the multiplayer to be as addicting it has to have the magic of the first one.  I'm not sure what it was, but Warcraft 3 didn't captivate me at all, for instance.

[Milldawg]

It was probably due to the fact that WarCraft III was awful

[thebrowncloud]

You are dissapointed they release it in parts? Every part is a expansion, that is two confirmed expansions. Were you dissapointed when WC3 turned out to have a expansion? I think not!

Yes. No, every part is another piece of the game -- there's a difference. The first edition isn't Starcraft 2 vanilla. It's Starcraft 2 episode 1. And yes, I was disappointed because I dislike Warcraft and wish they had turned their attention to Starcraft instead of milking out orcs and evil powerlords!

Two confirmed expansions? More like a confirmed unfinished game and we have to wait at least two years after the release of episode 1 before we can get our hands on Starcraft 2, full version. Way I see it, we'll get SC 2 no sooner than 2012, but by then they'll probably have made up an additional infinite number of reasons to postpone it until 2015. Thank heavens for other game developers. *glances at PS3*

I'm a crybaby, but I don't care. The internet gives me the power to whine. Hee hee.

You can't really call it an unfinished game. We have a standard 30-ish mission campaign and the entire slew of new units, plus online play, the editor, etc. I don't see much of a difference from any other Blizzard RTS. The only difference is that instead of getting a campaign for each race and have them be shorter, they are splitting them up into 3 larger campaigns for more depth. That is really all the "episodes" will be adding. Maybe a couple new units, but it sounds like a regular expansion to me. I was a little displeased at first as well, but it's a win-win situation. The people who like the story will have plenty of content to satisfy them over the years and it won't come all at once so they will have something to look forward to. And for the people who don't give a shit about the story (shame on you), they get their game sooner and will also have new units to look forward to. To be honest, I'd much rather have the extra content spread out over a couple years so I have time to enjoy it all.

[Legion]

You can't really call it an unfinished game. We have a standard 30-ish mission campaign and the entire slew of new units, plus online play, the editor, etc. I don't see much of a difference from any other Blizzard RTS. The only difference is that instead of getting a campaign for each race and have them be shorter, they are splitting them up into 3 larger campaigns for more depth. That is really all the "episodes" will be adding. Maybe a couple new units, but it sounds like a regular expansion to me. I was a little displeased at first as well, but it's a win-win situation. The people who like the story will have plenty of content to satisfy them over the years and it won't come all at once so they will have something to look forward to. And for the people who don't give a shit about the story (shame on you), they get their game sooner and will also have new units to look forward to. To be honest, I'd much rather have the extra content spread out over a couple years so I have time to enjoy it all.

I'd rather have three "short" campaigns than these behemoths they're promising us. I don't know this for sure, of course, but to me it seems like it'll be a whole lot of missions and submissions and whathaveyou and by the time you're done with the first one, you won't wanna do all that shit again for two other "campaigns". Really, I'm trying to be enthusiastic about this, but I keep coming back to my initial point that this is JUST a video game and not something I'm going to be playing for the rest of my life. If they're going to do what I fear they're going to do, then they're going to pull another Warcraft; where story-wise you can't see the forest for the trees, and technology-wise, Starcraft 2's engine and stuff will be OLD by the time the last episode is out.

[thebrowncloud]

I'd rather have three "short" campaigns than these behemoths they're promising us. I don't know this for sure, of course, but to me it seems like it'll be a whole lot of missions and submissions and whathaveyou and by the time you're done with the first one, you won't wanna do all that shit again for two other "campaigns". Really, I'm trying to be enthusiastic about this, but I keep coming back to my initial point that this is JUST a video game and not something I'm going to be playing for the rest of my life. If they're going to do what I fear they're going to do, then they're going to pull another Warcraft; where story-wise you can't see the forest for the trees, and technology-wise, Starcraft 2's engine and stuff will be OLD by the time the last episode is out.

I guess.... I dunno. I have faith that they will follow through on their promise to make a variety of gameplay types, but only time will tell. I understand what you mean about not wanting to play a whole bunch of missions where you would fear it would just be the same thing. But picture it this way: Would you ever play a campaign that someone made on CC that was 30 missions long? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you would. Would you want to play another one immediately after? Probably not; you would want to wait a while (maybe a little over a year?). Wash, rinse, repeat. Fearing that the gameplay will be repetitive is completely natural, but the very fact that you are on a website for an 11 year-old game that is filled with countless campaigns which have pretty much all the same kind of gameplay is kind of hypocritical. Compared to SC1, the last episode of SC2 will come out when the engine is still in the early stages of its life.

[WB]

That's what PR people do. Polish up fuck ups. Everybody knows it's not Battle.net.

I'm pretty sure at blizzcon they showed a polished multiplayer experience and significant singleplayer content. I know, I was there. What they did not show at all, was Bnet. So on one hand, youre asking them for the truth behind the delays, then when they give you something that all signs point to be true, you call them liars.

I think you are just grasping for something to bitch about. But hey, it IS the internet, so were still cool.

[Legion]

That's what PR people do. Polish up fuck ups. Everybody knows it's not Battle.net.

I'm pretty sure at blizzcon they showed a polished multiplayer experience and significant singleplayer content. I know, I was there. What they did not show at all, was Bnet. So on one hand, youre asking them for the truth behind the delays, then when they give you something that all signs point to be true, you call them liars.

I think you are just grasping for something to bitch about. But hey, it IS the internet, so were still cool.

If I were looking for something to bitch about, I'd certainly not pick the production process of a game. Glad we're still cool, though.

However, it seems you got me wrong. I'm not asking for a truth behind delays, I'm saying that Bnet isn't the reason. I don't care what is, I just feel like these updates are no updates at all because they could have been shown to us at any time during SC2's production. Judging by the amount of time they've kept people waiting since their announcement, the ONLY possible next update should be: StArCrAft!! 2!! is OUT!!!

Heh.

thebrowncloud, though that may be true, I haven't PLAYED Starcraft in 9 years probably. I've played custom content of course. Anyway, I was addressing the fact that people may not be interested in sitting through 3 x 30 missions _especially_ if they have to wait for and BUY each part of the game. You call them expansions, I call them parts of the original game. Like I said, I sense at least one or two delays and possibly even a cancellation coming, because it's obviously a business endeavor they've underestimated.

If my posts and opinions seem dumb and bitchy to you, at least let them serve to strengthen your faiths in Blizzard please! I'd hate to offend or start fights with anyone over this! Personally, I feel Blizzard is bad and needs to get spanked. Especially that rockstar Metzen.

[thebrowncloud]

Don't worry about it, Legion. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm merely trying to influence your thoughts about the trilogy so that you can see it in more of a positive light. As for your SC playing habits, I'd throw "playing custom content" into the same bin as "playing SC". I think you see the whole campaign thing differently from me. I see it very black-and-white in that you want to play the campaign or you don't. The way I interpret the way you are seeing it is similar to, say, the Lord of the Rings movies. "The movies look really cool, but they are three hours long each and there are three of them. Nine hours is simply too long, no matter how good they may be." I never really understood that. Length strengthens good things and weakens bad things. If a game is fun to play and it's really long, great! If it sucks and it takes forever to get through it, quit!

Don't think that SC2 will get any cancellations. They've come too far and this is too prestigious of a project for them to let it go. StarCraft: Ghost was a special case. They had never made anything like it before and they seemed to have very little idea of what they were getting themselves into. Blizzard barely knows what a game console is. They live on computers. As long is it is a computer-based game, they will not fail.

You think too pessimistically about SC2, sir. I feel your pain. We have all been waiting for 11 long years (most likely 12 by the time it finally comes out) and it is getting to the best of us. But just remind yourself that this game isn't some dream that will never come true. StarCraft 2 is coming! It's only a matter of time before we finally get our hands on it. And if there is anything that any of us have, it's time.

[IskatuMesk]

I don't mind the whole two expansion dealy. If I were to ever mod the game, it would mean more content. Because sc2 at release won't have the available assets wc3 has right now (creeps and stuff). More expansions means more assets, and the very rare possibility they might actually update the editor.

If I was making an RTS and I was faced with the prospect of forcing one of my stories into a campaign, I would make the same decision.