Re: MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:24 pm
Found it!
If either Lavarinth or Tipereth were Dark Templar, both of them had to have been Dark Templar, as mentioned in my deductions above.
However... Page 4, Tipereth suggests lynching Lavarinth:
This breaks scenario 2 above, since it would mean a fellow Dark Templar accusing one of his own when no one had voted yet. Unless anyone can find and quote something that also breaks scenario 1, scenario 1 must be true, and mAc Chaos and Aekenon are the Dark Templar.
If they attempt to betray each other at this point to try to get us to split our votes, don't be fooled by them. It is too late for any betrayal to be considered into these scenarios, unless it had already happened. We must focus our votes on just one of them. Unless one of them votes for the other (in BOLD), we cannot lynch both of them on this day. I suggest mAc Chaos first, already detected as a Dark Templar by Lavarinth.
The two scenarios again, for reference, because of the new page:
If either Lavarinth or Tipereth were Dark Templar, both of them had to have been Dark Templar, as mentioned in my deductions above.
However... Page 4, Tipereth suggests lynching Lavarinth:
tipereth wrote: In all seriousness, Lav is inherently a bad guy. Judging by the last game (which I wasn't a part of hahaha) even if he's on our side it would be an advantage to having him dead.
This breaks scenario 2 above, since it would mean a fellow Dark Templar accusing one of his own when no one had voted yet. Unless anyone can find and quote something that also breaks scenario 1, scenario 1 must be true, and mAc Chaos and Aekenon are the Dark Templar.
If they attempt to betray each other at this point to try to get us to split our votes, don't be fooled by them. It is too late for any betrayal to be considered into these scenarios, unless it had already happened. We must focus our votes on just one of them. Unless one of them votes for the other (in BOLD), we cannot lynch both of them on this day. I suggest mAc Chaos first, already detected as a Dark Templar by Lavarinth.
The two scenarios again, for reference, because of the new page:
BTW, the narrowing down to these two scenarios was made possible by the double lynch, the way the votes went (including the order), the fact that we did get a Dark Templar with it, the number of people remaining, and Lavarinth's claims as to who he investigated and the results. If even one of those did not happen, I probably would not have been able to narrow it down this much.ShadowFlare wrote: After careful consideration, I believe we only lynched one Dark Templar and we lynched one innocent Protoss.
If Thalraxal was indeed a Dark Templar, then under this scenario:
- Lavarinth is probably not a Dark Templar, and maybe an Observer as he claims to be, since Thalraxal would not have been lynched without his vote (was he even the first to vote for him as well?).
- I am not a Dark Templar since Lavarinth is an Observer and said so.
- Taer probably is not a Dark Templar, since he had the deciding vote to lynch Thalraxal and we probably would not have condemned him for not doing so.
- Aekenon and mAc Chaos were the main cause of Tipereth getting lynched, and one of them must be Dark Templar, so Tipereth must not have been one, making both of them Dark Templar.
If Tipereth was a Dark Templar, then under this scenario:
- Aekenon and mAc Chaos were the main cause of Tipereth getting lynched, so if Tipereth was Dark Templar, the Dark Templar would not have lynched one of their own, and thus Aekenon and mAc Chaos would not be Dark Templar.
- I am not a Dark Templar, since I would not have given the deciding vote to lynch a fellow Dark Templar.
- Since mAc Chaos would not be a Dark Templar under this scenario, Lavarinth would be lying, and thus he would have to be a Dark Templar (or just a deceitful Protoss trying to mess us up...).
- Thalraxal would not have been a Dark Templar, since Lavarinth would not have started the vote to lynch him otherwise, and because Thalraxal retaliated as well.
- Taer would be the other Dark Templar, since there are no others left to discuss under this scenario.
As I currently have no reason to disbelieve Lavarinth, I am currently leaning more toward that the first of those scenarios is true, and that mAc Chaos and Aekenon are the remaining Dark Templar.
Also note that I am definitely an innocent Protoss. It is extremely unlikely in either scenario, because in either case it would mean someone betraying their own side, for the reasons I've stated in them.