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Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:44 pm
by Xelxiuz
IskatuMesk wrote:
Xelxiuz wrote: By the way can you still do the stuff like in SC1 like shoot with tanks while it moves? I know you said you can't with the bikes, but what about tank/vikings?
I've tried it but it's not nearly as effective as sc1. Hit and run in general is much tougher to do. The reason you can't with hellions is because they have an intentional delay before they fire - it's not animation-related, it's a purposeful delay Blizzard put there.
That's kind of sad. If Vikings had move attack it would actually be 100% more fun to use than goliath.

=X blizzard seems to take out all the fun units that had risk vs reward like lurkers and nerf the ones that also were like that such as tanks dts. In exchange we get PLUS TEN BONUS DAMAGE, which is basically a hard counter just for existing.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:00 pm
by IskatuMesk
Yeah. Zerg are honestly very boring to play without the lurker. Roach is a totally uninspired and uninteresting unit. Hydras are basically dragoons but twice as strong. Mutas don't respond very well at all. Colossus is a boring unit and stupidly OP, nothing to it, unlike the reaver.

My interest in sc2 melee is rapidly declining and I'm finding myself tending more to my 3d modeling then playing or reading about it now.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:43 pm
by Xelxiuz
How come Hydras are like dragoons? I thought 1 hydra can't even beat 1 roach and it's a T2 unit.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:12 pm
by IskatuMesk
Not a roach, no, but Hydras are dragoons in the sense that they are effective against almost anything. But the difference is they are more effective. Roaches can kill hydras, but roaches are armored and die instantly to immortals (see my game vs Clish and others). Hydras, on the other hand, only fear tanks and colossi. Everything else is fair game. They attack so fast and do so much damage (which by the way is not explosive anymore aka it doesn't have a bonus damage it just does a straight 12+1) that they will kill anything in the game extremely quickly.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:00 pm
by Hercanic
IskatuMesk wrote: TeamBZ FFA 1

This is a test of the dreamhost streaming capabilities with a big video. Lemme know how it works out for you.

http://www.gameproc.com/sc2/SMesk_Sc2Beta_TeamBZ-FFA1-muxed_conv.html

For me the quality is ass and the sound is mangled.
W. T. F. Sounds like a whale in heat.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:28 pm
by RazorclawX
Xelxiuz wrote: That's kind of sad. If Vikings had move attack it would actually be 100% more fun to use than goliath.
Ever since the patches I haven't had much good things to say about Vikings. They blow up pretty darn fast, though-- they're ridiculously easy to counter and can't harass nearly as well as Mutalisks can. Their air rockets do jack all because they pop faster than Mutalisks, too.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:15 am
by Xelxiuz
RazorclawX wrote:
Xelxiuz wrote: That's kind of sad. If Vikings had move attack it would actually be 100% more fun to use than goliath.
Ever since the patches I haven't had much good things to say about Vikings. They blow up pretty darn fast, though-- they're ridiculously easy to counter and can't harass nearly as well as Mutalisks can. Their air rockets do jack all because they pop faster than Mutalisks, too.

>.> Mutalisks dominate because light air, and in particular AtG light units are rare in SC2 I believe. You have banshee and mutalisk, and toss has nothing in that department unless you're telling me that giant void ray is light.

But I heard 2 vikings unupgraded can beat a 8 interceptor carrier unupgraded.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:04 pm
by IskatuMesk
Video production is going to slow down notably as I am rapidly losing interest in the game.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:54 pm
by AA7Dragoon
Hey Mesk, I just wanted to formally thank you for your coverage of the SC 2 beta.  I have been watching all of your videos religiously and appreciate how you've spent a lot of them going up the tech tree for all three races.  I feel I've seen most of the units in some great action, and especially enjoy your commentary.  You have a great voice and it always makes me smile when I hear it. :)

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:00 pm
by IskatuMesk
I'm glad it has provided you with entertainment.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:50 am
by Lavarinth
Apparently the videos are spreading onto other sites- http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2611

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:29 am
by IskatuMesk
oh christ

looks like it's time to finally make a SClegacy acc

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:38 am
by Death_Wing
Looks like you did.

I would love to watch all your vids but if you read in some other thread I have limited bandwidth and speed that would make poor baby jesus cry.

Edit: Wow I started an acc on there and forgot I had it and when I followed that link it logged me on with a virus notification from a banned member, heh.

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:07 am
by Hercanic
Lavarinth wrote: Apparently the videos are spreading onto other sites- http://sclegacy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2611
Might want to correct the "some people from starcraft.org" bit.  ;)

Re: IskatuMesk SC2 Beta Coverage

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:34 pm
by IskatuMesk
I have developed a newfound hatred for Sentries. Not because their spells don't need research, which is stupid enough, but because they do stupid amounts of damage for being a caster without needing research.

And the fact you can teleport them into someone's base.

With zealots.

*stabs BZ*

After you're done recovering from my Giant Cave Spider Cleaver +4, send that replay you wanted to send me to malkor@gmail.com