MAFIA VIIb - PROTOSS MAFIA ROUND 2

[mAc Chaos]

Here's the bottom line. I don't know which side to trust at this point. Either Tipereth or Thalraxal. If Tipereth proves to be the incorrect choice, we lose. And he's going to die no matter what. I'm all for a 2-way lynch simply to cover our bases. I know I wanted to avoid lynching an innocent as much as the next guy, but I can't tell which one is innocent. I'd just like to know why you're so against the idea, Mac.

EDIT: Also, I'm not watching the Phillies game. Fuck sports. Fuck fat dudes ramming eachother.

I'm against it because I think Tip is guilty and Thal isn't, so it's just a waste.  They're both suspicious, but considering a few things, I think Tipereth is more suspicious enough that I'm confident in my choice.  For one, there's his votes.  We've yet to exonerate him from that, and it looks like a red flag to me.  I mean, with his case, what exactly compels us to look at someone else?  There's still no reason for anyone to have abstained, he claimed it was to prevent a tie and yet here we are.  And I just consider it unlikely that Thal would be a Dark Templar two times in a row, since we just finished a game where he and I were one.  So, given that between those two, I err on Tipereth.  And since I believe that, I think a double lynch is just a waste.

[Mucky]

Being a Dark Templar in one game doesn't mean you can't be a Dark Templar again in the next. Lavarinth is claiming he is the Observer and that Thalraxal is definitely guilty -- what do you think of that?

[Lavarinth]

And since I believe that, I think a double lynch is just a waste.

I think your lies are a waste, no one's buying it.

[mAc Chaos]

Being a Dark Templar in one game doesn't mean you can't be a Dark Templar again in the next. Lavarinth is claiming he is the Observer and that Thalraxal is definitely guilty -- what do you think of that?

There was an opening we had for Observers announcing their detections.  But nobody said anything.  Here, only the High Templar aside from a real Observer could know for sure who really got detected, so if anyone made something up they'd get caught.  We could verify it.  Someone who's not an observer would have a hard time passing it off.  Then Mucky, you said who got detected.  All of a sudden Lavarinth remembers he's an Observer after all, investigated the guy you said was investigated and it matches the guy he's been going after.  Now we can't verify that it's true, and there was a moment we could have, and you'd think an Observer would want that.

[Mucky]

To be fair, Lavarinth wouldn't know if the High Templar were still alive.

Look, the plan I've given Lavarinth earlier will reveal if he's lying or not. If he's lying, no one will be investigated, and I'll know about it.

And besides, I could be lying too.

[Lavarinth]

For the record: I was in surgery and wasn't here when you were all complaining about observers.

[mAc Chaos]

To be fair, Lavarinth wouldn't know if the High Templar were still alive.

Look, the plan I've given Lavarinth earlier will reveal if he's lying or not. If he's lying, no one will be investigated, and I'll know about it.

And besides, I could be lying too.

Yes, that's another reason I have my doubts.  You could be trying to lead us into a trap where we lynch two innocents instead of one, or at least take down an innocent as a bonus where just one Dark Templar would've gone down before.  So... we have doubts about the observer being lavarinth, we have doubts about you, it's not exactly an airtight obvious anyone would support it case.

[tipereth]

I abstained because I thought a tie meant no lynch. Then I found out it meant two lynches. Fuck did I feel stupid.

[Taeradun]

lynch thalraxal

[Milldawg]

WELL THEN

Tipereth and Thalraxal are hanged by the face until dead.

NIGHT FALLS FINALLY

(The deadline seems not to work very well so I'm just going to say GUYS DON'T DAWDLE)

ALIVE:
Mac
Mucky
Lavarinth
Shadowflare
Aekenon
Taeradun

[Milldawg]

In his dreams, Mucky was stepping outside of a landed carrier to his beloved homeworld of Aiur.  The jungles were lush and beautiful, as the cities of the Conclave shined in the bright sunlight.  It was as if the Zerg were never there.  But in an instant, the sky went black and dark figures ambushed him, tearing his flesh into pieces.  Mucky awakened, startled, and alone in the dark of his complex.  Realizing it was only a dream, he lays back down, only to hear a voice say, “It was no dream, Protoss.”  The last thing Mucky sees is a flash of green light flood his sight.  Mucky was brutally murdered by the Dark Templar!

DAY BREAKS :O

ALIVE:
Shadowflare
Mac Chaos
Lavarinth
Aekenon
Taeradun

[ShadowFlare]

So either we lynched at least one Dark Templar, or they are just toying with us by killing only one last night.

[Lavarinth]

No. We lynched one: Thalraxal, as I said. And mAc is another as I observed last night. Because it is just rather blatant that he is one as he randomly stepped in to support Thalraxal out of no where.

[ShadowFlare]

After careful consideration, I believe we only lynched one Dark Templar and we lynched one innocent Protoss.

If Thalraxal was indeed a Dark Templar, then under this scenario:

• Lavarinth is probably not a Dark Templar, and maybe an Observer as he claims to be, since Thalraxal would not have been lynched without his vote (was he even the first to vote for him as well?).
• I am not a Dark Templar since Lavarinth is an Observer and said so.
• Taer probably is not a Dark Templar, since he had the deciding vote to lynch Thalraxal and we probably would not have condemned him for not doing so.
• Aekenon and mAc Chaos were the main cause of Tipereth getting lynched, and one of them must be Dark Templar, so Tipereth must not have been one, making both of them Dark Templar.

If Tipereth was a Dark Templar, then under this scenario:

• Aekenon and mAc Chaos were the main cause of Tipereth getting lynched, so if Tipereth was Dark Templar, the Dark Templar would not have lynched one of their own, and thus Aekenon and mAc Chaos would not be Dark Templar.
• I am not a Dark Templar, since I would not have given the deciding vote to lynch a fellow Dark Templar.
• Since mAc Chaos would not be a Dark Templar under this scenario, Lavarinth would be lying, and thus he would have to be a Dark Templar (or just a deceitful Protoss trying to mess us up...).
• Thalraxal would not have been a Dark Templar, since Lavarinth would not have started the vote to lynch him otherwise, and because Thalraxal retaliated as well.
• Taer would be the other Dark Templar, since there are no others left to discuss under this scenario.

As I currently have no reason to disbelieve Lavarinth, I am currently leaning more toward that the first of those scenarios is true, and that mAc Chaos and Aekenon are the remaining Dark Templar.


Also note that I am definitely an innocent Protoss.  It is extremely unlikely in either scenario, because in either case it would mean someone betraying their own side, for the reasons I've stated in them.

[mAc Chaos]

I think you're innocent ShadowFlare, but you've got the wrong guy.  I'll post in the morning though.