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Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:07 pm
by Negi
Ok, here's what I think is going on:
Observer:
Mucky
Zealot:
Negi
Aekenon
Doctor:
Thalraxal
Obviously evil:
Shadowflare
Shadowflare is obviously evil cause she was just like
I'm an observer mothafuckas
Which is retarded.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:29 pm
by ShadowFlare
Are you sure there aren't actually two observers left? It is still a possibility. Lavarinth could have been making up that whole thing about talking to Mucky in private. Mucky has been dead and thus was unable to confirm that Lavarinth was not lying.
Another reason I hadn't mentioned it until now (other than what I've already said) was that my first investigation became worthless, because unfortunately I investigated someone who ended up proven to everyone by morning that he was innocent (Aekenon), so I had nothing to reveal. My second investigation revealed Lavarinth as a Dark Templar and he was lynched without my intervention (my vote didn't even matter), so I didn't want to needlessly become a target.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:34 pm
by mAc Chaos
Well, since Lav got lynched, I'm assuming we're not buying his story, so that means he wasn't an observer and Mucky wasn't. At least because Lav said so.
EDIT: Wait, Negi, are you saying me and AA7 are the Arbiters?
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:49 pm
by Frozty
No, he had Thal under Doctor.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:34 pm
by Negi
ShadowFlare wrote:
Are you sure there aren't actually two observers left? It is still a possibility. Lavarinth could have been making up that whole thing about talking to Mucky in private. Mucky has been dead and thus was unable to confirm that Lavarinth was not lying.
Another reason I hadn't mentioned it until now (other than what I've already said) was that my first investigation became worthless, because unfortunately I investigated someone who ended up proven to everyone by morning that he was innocent (Aekenon), so I had nothing to reveal. My second investigation revealed Lavarinth as a Dark Templar and he was lynched without my intervention (my vote didn't even matter), so I didn't want to needlessly become a target.
Well, why would you tell everyone you are an observer?
It seems suspicious
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:06 pm
by AA7Dragoon
Brothers, note Thalraxal's varying shifts of tone.
He also agreed with Mucky. Does that make Mucky a Dark Templar too, AA7? I guess we're dealing with Crazy Suicidal Dark Templar then. Guess that'll make our job easier, eh?
Thal agreeing Lavarinth was a Dark Templar by equating Mucky's stance to his own agreement of abstaining.
Again, caution. Lav's accusation of Aek was suspicious, and you weren't (and still aren't) a proven innocent. For all I knew, Lav's remarks were nothing but a slip up and you were a Dark Templar seeking to take advantage of them. In fact, if it wasn't evident that Lav was a Dark Templar and that you led his lynching, I'd still be suspicious of you, AA7.
Thal holding me in suspicion of being a Dark Templar who took "advantage" of Dark Templar Lavarinth's slip-up.
You realize you fit your own criteria? You also voted to abstain on the first Day and lynch Lav on the second. Does that make you a Dark Templar? No.
Thal twisting my vote of "Present" as an abstain when I clearly stated I was against holding off executing any potential Dark Templar that day.
But of course, that's not possible, since we all know that you are the most innocent of us all. Oh, wait. It was Dark Templar Lavarinth that said that. Oops.
Thal holding me in suspicion of being a Dark Templar because Lavarinth called me innocent.
Thalraxal, you have only furthered my suspicion of you. In your own defense, you make no clear statement. You accuse me of framing Lavarinth, then you accuse Lavarinth of protecting me. The reality of the matter is Lavarinth accused the wrong person of being Dark Templar. Aekenon. It confirmed my suspicions and I proved his guilt, and with the attempted murder of Aekenon once more, you and Shadowflare targeted Aekenon, the one other Protoss other than myself who voted for Lavarinth's death. Now, you are trying to accuse me of being a Dark Templar, when I have clearly struck a grave blow against them.
Furthermore, Shadowflare's adoption of Lavarinth's poorly executed decoy of being an Observer shows great desperation among the Dark Templar. We shall deal with
her later.
I judge to execute Dark Templar Thalraxal for the murders of Mucky and Taeradun, and the attempted murders of Aekenon and Negi.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:18 pm
by Ricky_Honejasi
I still vote for Mac mostly because I am being a rather single-minded person that don't even really care to read and interpret the other's posts.
Personally, my little finger believes that the dark templar group is mostly made up of "veteran" community people (ex : Lavarinth).
Also, on the third round of killing attempt, they probably had the logic of "if Aekenon was already targeted, he probably wouldn't be covered again" and then targeted Aekenon again but foiled by the doctor that believed the same thing and covered him (or Aekenon got a permanent night guardian angel).
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:07 am
by ShadowFlare
Negi wrote:
Well, why would you tell everyone you are an observer?
AA7Dragoon wrote:
Furthermore, Shadowflare's adoption of Lavarinth's poorly executed decoy of being an Observer shows great desperation among the Dark Templar. We shall deal with her later.
I figured I may be one of the next targets of the Dark Templar anyway, so I announced it in case an Arbiter would want to protect me, or at least so the Dark Templar might not target me in the next night, for fear of being cloaked by an Arbiter. Isn't that how it usually goes? (I'm fairly new to this, so I wouldn't know) Besides, how often do the Dark Templar claim to be an observer and then do it yet again right after?

Seems kind of a silly strategy to me. Personally, I wouldn't try it myself if I was on their side.
If the other observer has not been killed yet and he speaks up, will you lynch him, too?
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:18 am
by Negi
Actually, Shadowflare, who did you investigate then on the last night then.
There were 3 investigations.
You can PM me the last one.
Also, SF, your sig looks like it says "do you wanna bork with me" I just realized now that it says rock. Which is kind of humorous.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:06 am
by Milldawg
Negi wrote:
You can PM me the last one.
No.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:17 am
by Thalraxal
@Negi: Thanks for the vote of confidence, Negi! I don't want to confirm or deny your claims that I'm an arbiter for obvious reasons though.
@AA7: Well, I guess there's no convincing you that I'm innocent at this point. But you still haven't answered the ultimate question, AA7: How do we know that you're not a Dark Templar trying to get us to lynch ourselves? The only "Observer" to defend you was Lav. We know he was lying about being an Observer, I wonder what else he was lying about? Also, you're curiously absent from Negi's list. You're the most bloodthirsty one of us all, and you've been the first to cast a vote for two days in a row. Regardless of your true nature right now you're just as dangerous as one of them right now.
While I am tempted to vote against you right now, I'm willing to give you a chance to defend yourself. I'm not interested in killing innocent Protoss and I'm not sure if you're a Dark Templar, or simply their pawn yet.
Oh, wait. I'm being cautious in regards to lynching you, just like I was for Lav. I guess that means you are a Dark Templar, AA7.

Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:25 am
by mAc Chaos
lool
Personally, my little finger believes that the dark templar group is mostly made up of "veteran" community people (ex : Lavarinth).
I thought everybody here was a veteran. This place has been around for like a million years.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:33 am
by Aekenon
ShadowFlare wrote:
I figured I may be one of the next targets of the Dark Templar anyway, so I announced it in case an Arbiter would want to protect me, or at least so the Dark Templar might not target me in the next night, for fear of being cloaked by an Arbiter.
That's an odd thing to say, considering you were rather under the radar
until this announcement.
Anyway... Negi's blatant disregard to our laws aside, he has a point, Shadowflare. There have been three nights since this started, therefore three opportunities for you to investigate someone. Since you've gone ahead and made yourself a huge target, you may as well tell us (publicly, that is) what came of your third investigation. It won't hurt you any at this point. In fact, if you're really what you say you are, it will
help.
Thalraxal wrote:
@AA7: Well, I guess there's no convincing you that I'm innocent at this point. But you still haven't answered the ultimate question, AA7: How do we know that you're not a Dark Templar trying to get us to lynch ourselves? The only "Observer" to defend you was Lav. We know he was lying about being an Observer, I wonder what else he was lying about? Also, you're curiously absent from Negi's list. You're the most bloodthirsty one of us all, and you've been the first to cast a vote for two days in a row. Regardless of your true nature right now you're just as dangerous as one of them right now.
"Also, you're curiously absent from Negi's list."
Pardon me, Thalraxal, but what does that mean? How does that say anything one way or another about AA7? I'm just curious.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:20 am
by Thalraxal
Aekenon wrote:
Thalraxal wrote:
@AA7: Well, I guess there's no convincing you that I'm innocent at this point. But you still haven't answered the ultimate question, AA7: How do we know that you're not a Dark Templar trying to get us to lynch ourselves? The only "Observer" to defend you was Lav. We know he was lying about being an Observer, I wonder what else he was lying about? Also, you're curiously absent from Negi's list. You're the most bloodthirsty one of us all, and you've been the first to cast a vote for two days in a row. Regardless of your true nature right now you're just as dangerous as one of them right now.
"Also, you're curiously absent from Negi's list."
Pardon me, Thalraxal, but what does that mean? How does that say anything one way or another about AA7? I'm just curious.
To be honest: I don't know. It could be that Negi has no clue what AA7 is. It could be that Negi knows what AA7 is and simply doesn't want to reveal it for one reason or another (either because he wants to protect AA7, or because he wants to protect himself). I was just noting that AA7 was one of the few people still alive that is missing from Negi's list. Of course, Negi's only had the chance to investigate three people, so some of that list has to be based off his own theorizing.
Of course, if one of our Observers has investigated AA7 or myself, or does knows who our last two Dark Templar are, now would be a good time to tell us so we can avoid lynching potentially innocent Protoss.
Re: MAFIA VII - PROTOSS MAFIA
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:30 am
by Aekenon
Since when has Negi been considered a possible Observer? I guess I missed that one.