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Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:05 pm
by Ricky_Honejasi
GreatGodSajuuk wrote:
Correction. They can't stop private servers, it's a pointless effort.
They can't stop all private servers but ultimately they ensure to get the majority of their potential customers' money which for a game business would be one of the most important parts.
Anyway since a real debate on piracy-related matters risks to be unhealthy ... so guys, how's the campaign so far (obviously without spoiling the campaign itself)?
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:24 pm
by Lavarinth
GreatGodSajuuk wrote:
Correction. They can't stop private servers, it's a pointless effort.
Correction. They can't stop all private servers, so why not take down the big ones and call it a day.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:54 pm
by IskatuMesk
Lavarinth wrote:
GreatGodSajuuk wrote:
Correction. They can't stop private servers, it's a pointless effort.
Correction. They can't stop all private servers, so why not take down the big ones and call it a day.
Iccup.
There'll be an iccup for sc2 inevitably so long as they keep hiding ladder placements from people and keep enforcing ridiculous map publishing limits.
Personally I'd run a private server JUST for mods. Because modding is dead in sc2 otherwise.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:30 pm
by Xenon
Ricky_Honejasi wrote:
some cracker will find the way around it.
I just had to laugh at that.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:42 pm
by Frozty
I'm disappointed in you, Lavarinth... Where is the elaborate "SC2 is OUT!!" announcement on the home page of the site?? You getting lazy? Or just waiting for the right moment, like say last night at midnight?
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:43 am
by Lavarinth
Frozty wrote:
I'm disappointed in you, Lavarinth... Where is the elaborate "SC2 is OUT!!" announcement on the home page of the site?? You getting lazy? Or just waiting for the right moment, like say last night at midnight?
If you only knew.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:56 am
by JimmyJames
, I didn't have on the date delivery, so mine is coming a few days later.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:52 am
by GreatGodSajuuk
Lavarinth wrote:
Correction. They can't stop all private servers, so why not take down the big ones and call it a day.
If that was true then EuroBattleNet should have been killed a LONG LONG time ago.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:16 am
by GreatGodSajuuk
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:34 am
by Demoneater
Uh? Am I the only one who isn't going to buy the game here?
What about the dudes who complained about blizzard here just shortly?
In my eyes, SC II is a total fail for me. Mostly cause of the blizzard politics. Activision Blizzard will really get the milk out of the cows...
- No LAN mode
- You have to be connected to the internet all the time, even during SP games (afaik). Not to mention what they might do with all the data they recieve through this way,
- IIRC increased game price. It might be just a few dollars now, but it is about the principle, if they sell games for an increased price very successful they will continue like this and other publishers will follow.
- You just get ONE race campaign. The others will be sold as addons for a quite high price I suppose. You are paying then for just a 1/3 of the campaign. Nice move, hm?
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:54 am
by UntamedLoli
Demoneater wrote:
- No LAN mode
LAN I don't care about in itself although others do, my main issue is the existance of a minimum possible latency which has no reason to exist.
They need to stop catering to shit internet that won't be able to maintain a game regardless what they do.
Demoneater wrote:- You have to be connected to the internet all the time, even during SP games (afaik). Not to mention what they might do with all the data they recieve through this way,
Every time you start something connect to battle.net Warden is running in the background doing whatever they could want it to do, fact is all it does is detect hacks so don't even start with the tinfoil hat.
Being online while playing the campaign is optional and only for achievements/unlockables used on Battle.net.
Demoneater wrote:- IIRC increased game price. It might be just a few dollars now, but it is about the principle, if they sell games for an increased price very successful they will continue like this and other publishers will follow.
Blizzard games have been selling at that price all this time.
Demoneater wrote:- You just get ONE race campaign. The others will be sold as addons for a quite high price I suppose. You are paying then for just a 1/3 of the campaign. Nice move, hm?
We also get everything else that entails an expansion including new editor features/functionality and new units for MP.
As much as Blizzard might have screwed up the game and any plans I had with the minimum latency they have it working alot better than any of the competition does out there.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:54 am
by IskatuMesk
- You just get ONE race campaign. The others will be sold as addons for a quite high price I suppose. You are paying then for just a 1/3 of the campaign. Nice move, hm?
You tards aren't STILL complaining about this, are you?
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:37 pm
by Lavarinth
Demoneater wrote:
Uh? Am I the only one who isn't going to buy the game here?
What about the dudes who complained about blizzard here just shortly?
In my eyes, SC II is a total fail for me. Mostly cause of the blizzard politics. Activision Blizzard will really get the milk out of the cows...
- No LAN mode
- You have to be connected to the internet all the time, even during SP games (afaik). Not to mention what they might do with all the data they recieve through this way,
- IIRC increased game price. It might be just a few dollars now, but it is about the principle, if they sell games for an increased price very successful they will continue like this and other publishers will follow.
- You just get ONE race campaign. The others will be sold as addons for a quite high price I suppose. You are paying then for just a 1/3 of the campaign. Nice move, hm?
...
LAN: Get over it. LAN was something useful when we all had dialup. Almost any household is connected to the internet now, obviously you are, so lack of LAN is no issue. If you take a look all around, you'll notice LAN overall is disappearing. Don't point your finger at one company only.
Connection: No, you don't. Turn off your connection. Surprise, you can play. What can you play? Singleplayer. Because it's singleplayer. If you're connected to the internet you might as well be connected to multiplayer. Why be connected during singleplayer? Achievement spamming. Xbox and PS3 do this, and the Wii are all connected online at all times. What reason is there not to be connected at all times. Who cares what they do with the data? Splinter Cell collected data of all maps and strategies used, and presented it in a press release. Did people out them for collecting anonymous data? No, because that's a ridiculous argument.
Game Price: It's 2010. Get with the times, get a job. 60 dollars is
not overpriced. Buy
any other game just released and you'll find yourself saying "all of these games are overpriced!" But take a look at the bigger picture, oh wait, that's just standard pricing now. And.. Shocker! It's cheaper than the mid-90's, and that's not even including inflation. Games ranged between 50 to 80 dollars in the mid 90's when minimum wage was much less than it is now, if you look at the market overtime you'll find PC games (and only PC games) have decreased in price over time. Get your facts straight.
One race: Get over this the most. The campaign is extremely fleshed out and so far it's taken me longer to play than StarCraft
and Brood War combined. There's a reason for that- It
is longer. There's a plethora of other features available aside just a campaign for singleplayer. Maybe if you owned it and played it you'd quit bickering about it.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:01 pm
by WB
Lavarinth wrote:
Demoneater wrote:
Uh? Am I the only one who isn't going to buy the game here?
What about the dudes who complained about blizzard here just shortly?
In my eyes, SC II is a total fail for me. Mostly cause of the blizzard politics. Activision Blizzard will really get the milk out of the cows...
- No LAN mode
- You have to be connected to the internet all the time, even during SP games (afaik). Not to mention what they might do with all the data they recieve through this way,
- IIRC increased game price. It might be just a few dollars now, but it is about the principle, if they sell games for an increased price very successful they will continue like this and other publishers will follow.
- You just get ONE race campaign. The others will be sold as addons for a quite high price I suppose. You are paying then for just a 1/3 of the campaign. Nice move, hm?
...
LAN: Get over it. LAN was something useful when we all had dialup. Almost any household is connected to the internet now, obviously you are, so lack of LAN is no issue. If you take a look all around, you'll notice LAN overall is disappearing. Don't point your finger at one company only.
Connection: No, you don't. Turn off your connection. Surprise, you can play. What can you play? Singleplayer. Because it's singleplayer. If you're connected to the internet you might as well be connected to multiplayer. Why be connected during singleplayer? Achievement spamming. Xbox and PS3 do this, and the Wii are all connected online at all times. What reason is there not to be connected at all times. Who cares what they do with the data? Splinter Cell collected data of all maps and strategies used, and presented it in a press release. Did people out them for collecting anonymous data? No, because that's a ridiculous argument.
Game Price: It's 2010. Get with the times, get a job. 60 dollars is
not overpriced. Buy
any other game just released and you'll find yourself saying "all of these games are overpriced!" But take a look at the bigger picture, oh wait, that's just standard pricing now. And.. Shocker! It's cheaper than the mid-90's, and that's not even including inflation. Games ranged between 50 to 80 dollars in the mid 90's when minimum wage was much less than it is now, if you look at the market overtime you'll find PC games (and only PC games) have decreased in price over time. Get your facts straight.
One race: Get over this the most. The campaign is extremely fleshed out and so far it's taken me longer to play than StarCraft
and Brood War combined. There's a reason for that- It
is longer. There's a plethora of other features available aside just a campaign for singleplayer. Maybe if you owned it and played it you'd quit bickering about it.
this
<3 Lav.
Re: Starcraft II goes Gold!
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:33 pm
by IskatuMesk
so lack of LAN is no issue.
Um, no LAN means there will be zero mods in sc2, as well as always being forced into enforced latency, which is total bullshit. Yes, it's a big issue. But the only worthwhile thing in his entire post.