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Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:55 pm
by mAc Chaos
If you have proof it was because of Bootcamp, I'd like to see it.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:02 pm
by Legion
mAc Chaos wrote:
If you have proof it was because of Bootcamp, I'd like to see it.
I'm not an expert, but I think it doesn't have anything to do with Bootcamp. Bootcamp just loads Windows on your system, much in the same way that all other machines run Windows. It's not like there's a secret device somewhere built in Macs that eventually destroys your favorite program's presets.
I can't figure out what happened. I have had Windows crash on me before, but I managed to save the presets by salvaging the user data (apps data) and transferring that onto my new account. This time, all user data seems to be there, no error messages at startup or anything, but the program just started afresh, like it had never been used before. I can't exactly ask Adobe for assistance... if you know what I mean.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:05 pm
by wibod
mAc Chaos wrote:
If you have proof it was because of Bootcamp, I'd like to see it.
You're emulating conditions so that windows can be run on macs, you can't do this normally because macs use proprietary hardware (read: shit). Software emulation is buggy as all fuck.
Windows is a plenty stable platform considering it's made to function on all types of hardware configurations; your bitching and whining about windows is probably based on 95 and ME. Newsflash: XP and Vista are incredibly stable if you're not a fucking retard.
Actually you're just fucking stupid, shut up.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:14 pm
by UntamedLoli
Mac's are so great? why the fuck are you emulating windows.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:17 pm
by IskatuMesk
whats a mac
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:18 pm
by Lavarinth
Tone down the language.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:52 pm
by mAc Chaos
Yeah, Legion, I know.
wibod wrote:
mAc Chaos wrote:
If you have proof it was because of Bootcamp, I'd like to see it.
You're emulating conditions so that windows can be run on macs, you can't do this normally because macs use proprietary hardware (read: shit). Software emulation is buggy as all fuck.
Windows is a plenty stable platform considering it's made to function on all types of hardware configurations; your bitching and whining about windows is probably based on 95 and ME. Newsflash: XP and Vista are incredibly stable if you're not a fucking retard.
Actually you're just fucking stupid, shut up.
So, no proof then. Also, lool @ wigging out over nothing. I'm pretty sure Windows on Boot Camp is native. He's running Windows XP itself. SORRY
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:02 pm
by wibod
mAc Chaos wrote:
Yeah, Legion, I know.
wibod wrote:
mAc Chaos wrote:
If you have proof it was because of Bootcamp, I'd like to see it.
You're emulating conditions so that windows can be run on macs, you can't do this normally because macs use proprietary hardware (read: shit). Software emulation is buggy as all fuck.
Windows is a plenty stable platform considering it's made to function on all types of hardware configurations; your bitching and whining about windows is probably based on 95 and ME. Newsflash: XP and Vista are incredibly stable if you're not a fucking retard.
Actually you're just fucking stupid, shut up.
So, no proof then. Also, lool @ wigging out over nothing. I'm pretty sure Windows on Boot Camp is native. He's running Windows XP itself. SORRY
Boot Camp is a utility included with Apple Inc.'s Mac OS X v10.5 "Leopard" operating system that assists users in installing Microsoft Windows XP or Windows Vista on Intel-based Macintosh computers. Boot Camp guides users through non-destructive re-partitioning (including resizing of an existing HFS+ partition, if necessary) of their hard disk drive and using the Mac OS X Leopard disc to install Windows drivers. In addition to device drivers for the hardware, the disc includes an applet for the Windows control panel for selecting the boot operating system.
Since resizing and repartitioning Apple's shitty boot system to work as an NTFS system is running it natively mirite?
Proof you say? Last mac release bluescreening mac users. If macs can't run their own OS what makes you think they can run another OS better.
Hunter_Killers wrote:
Mac's are so great? why the fuck are you emulating windows.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:11 pm
by mAc Chaos
Formatting a hard drive does not make something an emulator. Mac and Windows hard drives have to be formatted to work for their respective operating system. So obviously you wouldn't run Windows on the portion of a hard drive that is formatted for OS X. That doesn't mean it's emulating it.
Why do we even care about your ranting, anyway? Legion wants someone to help fix his problem and here comes wibod bitching about nothing.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:15 pm
by UntamedLoli
I don't know, maybe because a PC that isn't a Mac doesn't randomly decide to erase its settings that are stored on the HDD.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:18 pm
by mAc Chaos
And yet you have no reason to believe that was why it happened.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:20 pm
by UntamedLoli
mAc Chaos wrote:
And yet you have no reason to believe that wasn't why it happened.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:21 pm
by wibod
mAc Chaos wrote:
Formatting a hard drive does not make something an emulator. Mac and Windows hard drives have to be formatted to work for their respective operating system. So obviously you wouldn't run Windows on the portion of a hard drive that is formatted for OS X. That doesn't mean it's emulating it.
You can't run Windows natively on HFS+ systems, just like you can't run OSX on NTFS systems. You're creating a partition on Apple's proprietary drives that only recently have they let users dick with. You're emulating conditions so that Windows can be run on a Mac.
Also Emulation
In computer science it describes the imitation of a computer platform (or program) on another platform (or program)
To answer your other question, why is he using windows to do soundwork when Macs are generally the better option to do soundwork on.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:23 pm
by mAc Chaos
That is a very, very loose definition of an emulator. An emulator is something like VirtualPC. A program that runs an imitation of Windows on your Mac, albeit slowly and not as well. Simply changing your HD to actually match what Windows needs isn't emulating. It's making your Mac able to run Windows. You're running the actual software, not a program designed to mimic it.
Good question, though.
Re: WHY did this happen?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:28 pm
by wibod
mAc Chaos wrote:
That is a very, very loose definition of an emulator. An emulator is something like VirtualPC. A program that runs an imitation of Windows on your Mac, albeit slowly and not as well. Simply changing your HD to actually match what Windows needs isn't emulating. It's making your Mac able to run Windows. You're running the actual software, not a program designed to mimic it.
Good question, though.
You can't run Windows on a Mac without bootcamp or by wiping the entire harddrive of Apple OS (but that defeats the purpose of having a Mac). Also the way Mac's handle partitions would classify it as an emulator.