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This might be the last chance I get to post before I depart for the holidays.  I was hoping Thalraxal would have responded to my post, but he hasn't yet (he was online, but now he's not).

I usually like to wait longer, but in this rare occasion I have to make a decision quickly... and after thinking it over, I do indeed think Thalraxal is the most suspicious after weighing all of his posts against what I've seen thus far of the other suspects.  I vote to lynch Thalraxal!

Of course, anyone admitting to being the doctor also indirectly accuses Aekenon, AA7, and Lavarinth of being the enemy.

Sorry about taking so long to post.  Started, had lunch, and then did some Christmas baking and forgot all about it.  Sorry about that.

I only revealed myself because two people voted against me.  That's enough to make anyone a little ansty in this game, and being an innocent, and having one of the only proven innocent in this game vote against me, I felt it was the best course of action to simply reveal myself.  I'd much rather have kept my role hidden, as it does make me a target.

Now, the existance of the second mafia team is mostly speculative, yes, but it fits with what we've seen so far.  With Ricky's desire for chaos, I consider it an almost certainty.  Which of course means that we have a very good chance of lynching one of the murderers today.  Assuming we decide to not lynch the Doctor, of course.

As for the dangers of revealing your roles?  I'm the Doctor, I can protect up to two people.  Assuming I survive the day and that you're right about it being a 50-50 split, Aek, that's two-thirds of Team Goodguy immune to assassination.

Since Lav posted while I was working on this one: Why should I bother revealing who I shielded?  I failed to protect anyone, so it's a non-issue.  There's no way to prove it regardless.

I hate to be the one to point this out, but the fact is, all three Mafia would have a vested interest in killing me by lynch today to ensure that they can kill anyone tonight.  They're probably also working on the false assumption that I can protect myself.  I'm not accusing everyone who voted to lynch me of being a Mafioso (Shadowflare, specifically.  Although the same applies to Aek, and AA7), but they would know that I'm telling to truth and would like the get me out of the way.

And Shadowflare posted too: I think all four of us are claiming that the other three have to be Mafioso because of the nature of the situation.  Seeing as all three have decided to accuse me, I think it's fairly obvious I have no allies with them.

Your lack of posting who you protected is crucial in my eyes.. Something so simple that you're overly secretive about makes me think you're buying time to just conjure up a list.

Lavarinth wrote: Your lack of posting who you protected is crucial in my eyes.. Something so simple that you're overly secretive about makes me think you're buying time to just conjure up a list.

Why?  Is your role the ability to see who was targetted at night?  Somehow I doubt that.  And buying time?  It took me three hours to make that post due to interruptions.  If I was "buying time to conjure up a list" then I certainly had plenty of it to do so, Lav.

Thalraxal wrote: Sorry about taking so long to post.  Started, had lunch, and then did some Christmas baking and forgot all about it.  Sorry about that.

I only revealed myself because two people voted against me.  That's enough to make anyone a little ansty in this game, and being an innocent, and having one of the only proven innocent in this game vote against me, I felt it was the best course of action to simply reveal myself.  I'd much rather have kept my role hidden, as it does make me a target.

Now, the existance of the second mafia team is mostly speculative, yes, but it fits with what we've seen so far.  With Ricky's desire for chaos, I consider it an almost certainty.  Which of course means that we have a very good chance of lynching one of the murderers today.  Assuming we decide to not lynch the Doctor, of course.

As for the dangers of revealing your roles?  I'm the Doctor, I can protect up to two people.  Assuming I survive the day and that you're right about it being a 50-50 split, Aek, that's two-thirds of Team Goodguy immune to assassination.

Since Lav posted while I was working on this one: Why should I bother revealing who I shielded?  I failed to protect anyone, so it's a non-issue.  There's no way to prove it regardless.

I hate to be the one to point this out, but the fact is, all three Mafia would have a vested interest in killing me by lynch today to ensure that they can kill anyone tonight.  They're probably also working on the false assumption that I can protect myself.  I'm not accusing everyone who voted to lynch me of being a Mafioso (Shadowflare, specifically.  Although the same applies to Aek, and AA7), but they would know that I'm telling to truth and would like the get me out of the way.

And Shadowflare posted too: I think all four of us are claiming that the other three have to be Mafioso because of the nature of the situation.  Seeing as all three have decided to accuse me, I think it's fairly obvious I have no allies with them.

You've backed yourself into a corner Thal by pretending to be the doctor.  If you were really the doctor, you didn't have to reveal your role.  The votes aren't permanent.  All I wanted you to do was explain your side in all this after making that ridiculous comment that you "Didn't know Tipereth was dead."  So either you are a foolish Doctor, or you're blowing smoke up everyone's asses.  And knowing you, you're not the type to be careless.

I vote to felch Thalraxal

Well, I think the fact the three other most suspicious people (Aek, Lav, AA7) have voted against me pretty much proves that I have to be innocent.  You can drop the act, guys.

I for one believe Thalraxal's story. If what he says is true, then he has likely saved a life at the cost of his own. Here's how:
If he is really the doctor, and he didn't reveal his role, and got lynched today (as was becoming increasingly likely), there would be a good chance of both killers still being alive, and killing two more people, possibly innocents. Thus, three people would die, possibly all innocent.
Now, having revealed his role, he greatly increases the chances that we lynch someone guilty, and even if both killers survive the day, he has more or less FORCED both of them to target him, since any other target would have much too high a chance of being protected. Thus, one mafia would very likely die to lynching today, and one innocent (Thalraxal himself) tomorrow. Sacrificing one innocent to get one mafia is better than allowing the possibility of losing 3 innocents. So if he's truly the doctor, it would definitely make sense for him to reveal his role.

Furthermore, I just noticed that my psychic emanations actually detected a person protecting two people at night. It's actually lucky that I didn't mention this before, because if Thalraxal were not actually the doctor, then he wouldn't know the doctor can protect two people. So this just makes it even more likely that he's the doctor. And even more likely that everyone else is guilty.

NowI suppose it's also possible that Thalraxal is an evil psychic or something and, knowing that I would know the doctor can protect two people, made up his story to trick me. (This seems like it might incriminate me too, but assuming that there would be only one good psychic and one evil psychic, it is far more likely for the evil psychic to be the one who would lie about being a doctor. So I think I'm still clear.) ANYWAY, I find this possibility rather unlikely, and if this does turn out to be the case, then I'll be damned. But I'm willing to bet on Thalraxal's story here.

That said, it's likely that Lav, Aek, and AA7 are all evil. So who should we kill? Well, in case somehow one of them is not guilty, we should focus on whichever one is most suspicious. And that is definitely Lavarinth, since he is prying Thalraxal to release information that would not help to confirm his story, and would only help the mafia decide how to plot their next move. Aekenon, you're off the hook for now, but I'll have my eye on you since you voted Thalraxal. My MYSTICAL eye. If you ever get back from your vacation.

unvote Aekenon, vote Lavarinth

I never VOTED Thalraxal. God. Why do you keep saying I do?

*Reads Milldawg's post*

See, your exact line a few pages ago was "someone was protected." SOMEONE. Not TWO people. THIS important piece of information, as you called it, is EXACTLY what I was looking for him to prove to know whether or not he WAS a doctor. Now you say it benefits you and him to know that, which is why I have not changed my vote.

Since there are 6 of us alive, plus one dead person voting, we need to vote together. I don't want to let the dead person determine the entire outcome of the game, so we need to make sure his vote doesn't count. Right now there are 3 votes for Thalraxal, and if Lav votes, there will be 4 - a majority. I don't know how much of a jerk Ricky is, but hopefully he won't allow a speed-lynching of Thalraxal before everyone has a chance to weigh in.

So what I ask is: AA7, if you're innocent, please change your vote. And ShadowFlare, SINCE you're innocent (we assume), please change your vote. Before it's too late.

Woops, sorry, edited my post after your reply.

Guys it's bad form to edit posts in mafia games. Just double post

ANYWAY. Lavarinth, I guess you are accusing ME of being evil then. Which is retarded. And you've now more or less PROVEN yourself guilty, in my eyes at least. I can only hope the other innocents agree with me and vote to lynch you. Friggin Aekenon and his leaving. If he's innocent I'm sure he'd agree with me.

No, you guessed wrong, I never once accused you of being evil or bad.

Indirectly. I said "someone protected someone" and "someone protected two people" now, and you called me out. You're at LEAST accusing me of lying, and there's no reason why a villager need ever lie. You just keep contradicting yourself.

No, where did you say someone protected two people? I was looking into Thal's writing to see if HE was lying by you saying there was only one person protected, therefor he wasn't telling the truth and making up a role. Obviously, none of this was true and what he said WASN'T a lie.

You're looking at things the wrong way, I didn't indirectly claim anything on you.