Mafia VIII - Chaotic Nights (No longer joinable) - Morning

[ShadowFlare]

lol, I don't know.

[AA7Dragoon]

Anyway, for now I think I will vote to lynch AA7.

Uh..., well I hope you come around Shadow considering it's a close game and we need your vote to survive.

Well the reality is there are 2 or 3 Mafia still left and the only remaining players not confirmed innocent are:
AA7Dragoon
Aekenon
Lavarinth
Thalraxal

So only 1 or 2 of us are innocent.  Which means I have to assume that Aekenon, Lavarinth, and Thalraxal are all Mafia or one of them isn't.  So here's how I suspect the remainders:
Aekenon - I don't agree with Aek's argument about Lav's vote against Milldawg being an indicator of guilt.  But I do tie Lavarinth with Mucky's stance against Mastermind Ricky staying alive during the game.  Since we're on the same page, how can I vote against him?  Either he's very clever mafia or the other innocent.
Lavarinth - I linked him to Mucky who turned out to be a Dark Detective based on what Milldawg said.  If I was right about Mucky then... But HE IS Lavarinth
Thalraxal - Not his usual self.  He's quiet and taking the sidelines as if to deflect attention from himself.  The "I forgot Tipereth was dead" makes me suspicious because playing ignorant is something I'd do.  "Oh well Thal couldn't have killed Tipereth if he didn't know he was dead."  Pfft, please.

So before I make my vote, I'd like to hear from Thalraxal's thoughts to gain a better understanding of where he stands in all this.

[ShadowFlare]

lol, nvm, I think I'll change my vote to Thalraxal.

[Thalraxal]

What's my stance in all this, AA7?  I want to make sure that as many innocent lives are saved as I can.  Why?  Because I'm the Doctor.

I was hoping for security by obscurity, but it seems like that's not going to be an option.  I might end up being ganked by both factions of Mafia tonight because of this, but at least I can make sure we avoid lynching an innocent person today.

Of course, that brings us to another interesting question, AA7.  What's your role in all this chaos?

[Lavarinth]

I.. Kind of.. Don't believe your statement of being the doctor..

[DrumsofWar]

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(Time to try out this new Chaotic Mafia.)

[Ricky_Honejasi]

DrumsofWar has joined the game but will only arrive in town NEXT morning of game time (aka only start playing next morning, not the current one we are in).

Details about new players :
-> Until the morning they officially join, they cannot talk during morning and are immune to any lynching and night actions until the morning they start.
-> New players will have a role (won't be villager) and might be either an innocent or in the mafia. However, their role will have less potential than starting players' role.

Game Admin :
Ricky_Honejasi

Players :
Aekenon
AA7Dragoon
Lavarinth
Shadowflare (night targeted on second night but CDLVII died instead of her)
Milldawg
Thalraxal

New player(s) to arrive next morning :
DrumsofWar (Immigrant)

Killed :
RCCola (lynched on first day)
Tipereth (killed on first night)
Mucky (lynched on second day)
CDLVII (killed on second night by "mistake", escaped death on first night)

[Ricky_Honejasi]

Also since Christmas draws closer and closer and some mentioned that they needed some game delays or pauses, it would be a good time to start telling me either publicly (especially if it's a pause) or privately (especially if it's a delay) about it.

So far, I will presume that only at Christmas that the game will be completely paused. By that, I imply that if the game is morning, chat won't be allowed (closest allowed would be PM'ed current lynch votes) but if it's night, I do accept night actions and even advance to morning if I got all of them but won't penalize anyone who is late for night actions during a night.

If you need an extended pause (3+ days of real life), it will be preferable if you PM me lynch votes + night actions in advance (either for one turn or multiple turns, even case by case scenarios if wanted) so the game can continue for others.

As for any delays told privately to me, the game's turns (either morning and/or night) will be longer to accommodate them due to real life.

[Thalraxal]

I.. Kind of.. Don't believe your statement of being the doctor..

How would I benefit from a false claim of being a Doctor, Lav?  If Mill is right there are two factions of them, Hypothetical Mafioso Thalraxal would just get killed by the other faction tonight.  No thank you.

The fact is, we've got one or two innocents stuck in a muddied sea of mafiosos.  Now's the time to reveal who's what so we can get together and lynch the guilty parties.

[Milldawg]

Well, that logic does make sense. Let's lynch Aekenon, then.

[Ricky_Honejasi]

Current voting in progress :

Shadowflare votes against Thalraxal
Milldawg votes against Aekenon
Lavarinth votes against Aekenon
Aekenon didn't vote yet
Thalraxal didn't vote yet
AA7Dragoon didn't vote yet

[Aekenon]

Yeah... let's not?


Thalraxal, you can't say that making up a story about being a doctor doesn't benefit you if you're a member of the mafia team.  We're at 6 people right now, most likely 3 innocent and 3 guilty.  If Mafioso Thalraxal (hypothetical, I hope) makes up this story about being a doctor, then manages to get one of three innocents lynched, and another may just die at night... hell, even two innocents could die... where does that leave us?  That's right, no more innocents.

Or, if all this weird talk about two mafia teams is true, then your aim isn't so much getting innocents lynched as it is getting the enemy team members lynched.  If you're the loner whose partner was Mucky, then it doesn't matter who dies, as long as it's not you...


This story isn't enough reason to believe or disbelieve in what you said, but the point is, you would benefit from this lie.  And I'd think you would've been aware of this, even if you were a doctor.

[Milldawg]

His point is that anyone who claims to be the doctor immediately because a NIGHT target. If we're right about two mafia teams, then a) he's the doctor and both teams will probably target him, or b) he's lying, but the other team will target him anyway. Either way, he is nigh guaranteed to die at night, which certainly doesn't benefit him. The mafia don't care how many innocents they kill if they themselves are doomed. Unless he is just trying to sow the seeds of havoc.

[Aekenon]

If there's just one team, then he doesn't have anything to lose by telling this lie.  But since the multiple team thing seems to be a popular idea, then... yeah, I guess there could be risks, depending on the situation.  But just because it's risky doesn't mean it's worth doing.

Anyway, I'm not saying he's guilty... I just don't think we should discount him as a suspect just yet.  Maybe I'm just suspicious because the general idea seems to be that, of the four of us suspects, only one is innocent.  And since I know that I'm innocent, then...

Not to mention, in addition to this being a wholly convenient time to SUDDENLY REVEAL PROOF OF INNOCENCE, he also demanded that everyone else reveals themselves.  In a game that's already at least 50 - 50 mafia, our secret abilities are our best hope... why would he want us to do that?

[Lavarinth]

It almost makes me want to change my vote..

As I mentioned before, it was such a simple sentence, followed by a barrage of "admit who you are." No statements as to his actions taken at night, what he did and who he helped. This is exactly what made me suspicious.