John McCain is being fed to the lions by the Republican Party

[Rocco]

Negi, you are the biggest retard I have ever seen on an internet forum. We trade with foreign 3rd world countries such as China, they make the same things we make here, but for so much more cheaper. We import their good and our workers here who do the same jobs lose them because we can import such goods for such a lower price. Only just now workers are starting to get jobs back here because the cost of importing has gone up so much because of fuel costs. You seriously need to stop flaming people on a online forum thread over a discussion. We are all entitled to our own opinions, you just can't accept the fact that others think differently than you. Grow the fuck up.

[wibod]

Negi, you are the biggest retard I have ever seen on an internet forum. We trade with foreign 3rd world countries such as China, they make the same things we make here, but for so much more cheaper. We import their good and our workers here who do the same jobs lose them because we can import such goods for such a lower price. Only just now workers are starting to get jobs back here because the cost of importing has gone up so much because of fuel costs. You seriously need to stop flaming people on a online forum thread over a discussion. We are all entitled to our own opinions, you just can't accept the fact that others think differently than you. Grow the fuck up.

Explain to me what NAFTA which stands for NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT HAS TO DO WITH ASIAN COUNTRIES. By the way China is hardly a third world country.

[Rocco]

One of the reasons China is growing so fast is because of us importing their goods without a tariff. That's what I was implying by NAFTA, where foreign countries import their goods without a tariff. On the other hand, any sweatshop countries in Asia charge us tariffs when we import our goods. I'm done arguing on this thread, this is pointless, our arguments don't change our views.

[wibod]

One of the reasons China is growing so fast is because of us importing their goods without a tariff. That's what I was implying by NAFTA, where foreign countries import their goods without a tariff. On the other hand, any sweatshop countries in Asia charge us tariffs when we import our goods. I'm done arguing on this thread, this is pointless, our arguments don't change our views.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAFTA

[Lavarinth]

All of you stop being children and calling each other names, it's highly annoying and immature. I wont put up with it any longer.

[Negi]

Negi, you are the biggest retard I have ever seen on an internet forum. We trade with foreign 3rd world countries such as China, they make the same things we make here, but for so much more cheaper. We import their good and our workers here who do the same jobs lose them because we can import such goods for such a lower price. Only just now workers are starting to get jobs back here because the cost of importing has gone up so much because of fuel costs. You seriously need to stop flaming people on a online forum thread over a discussion. We are all entitled to our own opinions, you just can't accept the fact that others think differently than you. Grow the fuck up.

STUPID!   STUPID!  STUPID!!  RETARDED!!

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with why we could very well be on the verge of a depression.  To explain why this is the case would require too much time and effort on my part, so I'll outsource it to Paul Krugman once I can find one of his articles on the subject.

Rebuttal to your stupidity:
Coming Soon!

Explanation of the current problems:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/opini ... ref=slogin

[AA7Dragoon]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_taxes;_ylt=AncTiSEX8aKhnviCjZRHDN6yFz4D

McCain backs off his no-new-tax pledge
By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer
Tue Jul 29, 10:29 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate John McCain's signal that he may be open to a higher payroll tax for Social Security, despite previous vows not to raise taxes of any kind, is drawing sharp rebukes from conservatives.

McCain's shift has come in stages, catching some Republicans by surprise. Speaking with reporters on his campaign bus on July 9, he cited a need to shore up Social Security. "I cannot tell you what I would do, except to put everything on the table," he said.

He went a step farther Sunday on ABC's "This Week," in response to a question about payroll tax increases.

"There is nothing that's off the table. I have my positions, and I'll articulate them. But nothing's off the table," McCain said. "I don't want tax increases. But that doesn't mean that anything is off the table."

That comment drew a strong response this week from the Club for Growth, a Washington anti-tax group. McCain's comments, the group said in a letter to the Arizona senator, are "shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances."

Indeed, McCain frequently has promised not to raise taxes.

At a July 7 town-hall meeting in Denver, he said voters faced a stark choice between him and Democrat Barack Obama.

"Sen. Obama will raise your taxes," McCain said. "I won't."

In a March 16 interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, McCain said he would cut taxes where possible, and not raise them.

"Do you mean none?" Hannity asked.

"None," McCain replied.

Both candidates have said Social Security's funding formula needs to be changed to ensure the program's long-term viability. Obama has called for imposing a new payroll tax on incomes above $250,000. Currently, only incomes up to $102,000 are subject to the 12.4 percent payroll tax, which employers and employees split evenly.

When Obama announced his plan June 13, McCain's top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, told reporters that as president McCain would not consider a payroll tax increase "under any imagineable circumstance."

McCain has made no specific proposals for Social Security, refusing to rule in or out anything to strengthen the benefit program for retirees and the disabled. Both candidates have said that, if elected, they would try to work out details with Republican and Democratic lawmakers.

Asked for an explanation of McCain's latest comments, campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said the Arizona senator "has a clear and demonstrated record of opposing tax increases. John McCain is going to cut taxes" and improve government discipline, he said.

Promises never to raise taxes have bedeviled past Republican officeholders. Before being elected president in 1988, George H.W. Bush said, "Read my lips, no new taxes." But facing severe budget problems, he reneged on the promise. Some conservative groups never forgave him.

Hmm..

[Negi]

McCain wants to tax the poor and cut taxes for the rich.  That sounds in line with the conservative agenda.  The payroll tax barely affects the rich, while the capital gains tax and income tax affect the rich more than anyone.  He wants to raise the payroll tax while lowering the capital gains and income taxes.  Conservatives should be proud.

John McCain sold himself out after he lost in 2000.  I would feel bad for him, but he ruined his legacy. 

Edit:  I see that everyone arguing against me was overwhelmed by my kamehameha waves of economics!  HAHA I WIN!

[tipereth]

McCain wants to tax the poor and cut taxes for the rich.  That sounds in line with the conservative agenda.

Funny, since so many conservatives are middle class churchgoers.

[Lavarinth]

McCain wants to tax the poor and cut taxes for the rich.  That sounds in line with the conservative agenda.

Funny, since so many conservatives are middle class churchgoers.

They're blind to reality. They call Bush one of the best presidents to take office.

[tipereth]

At least they aren't self-righteous armchair idealists, hey-oh!

[RazorclawX]

McCain wants to tax the poor and cut taxes for the rich.  That sounds in line with the conservative agenda. 

Taxing the rich doesn't do what you think it does. The rich have better means to shift the tax weight than lower income people.

[AA7Dragoon]

John McCain does not want gay couples to adopt because he believes two parents are necessary to a successful family.  Makes sense, huh?
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[Lavarinth]

John McCain does not want gay couples to adopt because he believes two parents are necessary to a successful family.  Makes sense, huh?
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Hah.. Haha... Hahahhaha... HAHAHHAAGAAGGAAAAGGGGAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..

[tipereth]

What if the kids don't want to be adopted by gay people?