Star Alliance bites the dust

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Star Alliance bites the dust

Postby IskatuMesk » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:31 am

While a few of us have known for quite a while, and I'm sure anyone could have guessed just by trying to go there, Star Alliance (samods.org) is confirmed for deceased. I had a chat with magic last night when I was looking for stories from the forum to regale to weedlords.

That leaves Campaign Creations as the sole surviving Starcraft customs website that is as functional as it is. The only other two websites I know of are SEN, which hasn't seen customs activity since the Maplantis incident and whose site is an embarrassing trainwreck, and Sc2mapster, which was stillborn along with sc2's release and became entirely unusable for even mundane purposes following Curse's catastrophic update some time ago.

A very, very large amount of individuals have contacted me over the last year asking about CC's website, thinking I had some kind of say over that due to my activity at GP, but I don't. I've offered to do work on the site when it's actually functional in terms of adding content and stuff, and I'll still probably do that if the site ever actually goes up again. But I don't really know what the progress or intent with that task is, other than that due to being burned countless times by false promises from would-be webmasters that Lavarinth would rather learn how to do it himself even though it's clearly taking a very long time.

For the uninformed, Star Alliance was actually a site that had content on it a very long time ago, before Xaran and PCM decided to throw it all out for inexplicable reasons. Magic didn't want to pick up the site again when he punched them out over the internet, and has since moved on from gaming/modding as a body after leaving Codemasters quite a while ago. I'm not sure what the old site even had anymore, to be honest.
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Re: Star Alliance bites the dust

Postby typhoon » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:14 pm

Not that anybody asked for my advice (and not that this is necessarily in your control), but if it's taking this long to restore the Campaign Creations web site, you guys are probably making it too complicated. Since this isn't a site with a ton of activity anymore, you realistically don't even need a content management system. You could put up static HTML pages, and it would be a lot better than nothing (in that it would make all the old campaigns and information readily available again). Someone could probably scrape all the old pages off the Wayback Machine and put those up as plain old HTML, and again, it'd be an improvement over the current situation.

Or you could do what we did over at Antioch Forever and put up a wiki. It's a very one-size-fits-all CMS solution and may not be as nice in many ways as a more bespoke system, but it can work quite well if people are sufficiently motivated to populate it with content (and it sounds like you are). You could even use the exact same wiki we do (...though you probably shouldn't 'cause there are better ones out there).

Anyway, I'm not trying to dump on you guys, but it's a bit sad that, as you note, this part of the internet is slowly withering away. I've tried to collect some old Antioch-related community sites and re-host them on our current server for the sake of posterity. If anybody has any CC- or SA-related sites that they want to zip up and send me, I can put those up as well. If you guys need any help restoring the CC web site, you can e-mail me if you like.

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Re: Star Alliance bites the dust

Postby IskatuMesk » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:48 am

I've offered to set up the site using a clone of mine which would be extremely simple to do, I could have it done in a day, but that offer wasn't taken. Lavarinth is pretty set on doing it his way.

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I'm pretty sure several people possess all of CC's content and porting it back to the site would be extremely easy. Lavarinth told me he spends some time each week working on the site, so I know it's still making some kind of progress.

I don't have any of SA's assets that I can recall, though. Someone else might. I'd be willing to post them if I had them given the original authors are highly unlikely to be able to be contacted anymore.

As an aside, here's the infoceptor warcraft TC for Starcraft. I always distribute this given the chance. I think this may be the only archive of it online that's this "recent".

http://www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/wc3tc.zip
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Re: Star Alliance bites the dust

Postby RazorclawX » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:03 am

I have *a* version of the web site from years ago, but I couldn't tell you if the directory structure of the site is the same as it was back then. The only pages I regularly updated are for the Wanderers of Sorceria page so that's the only thing I know that reliably works (consequently it's the only part of the web site I know still works)

The thing is I have no idea how to make a web site outside of using a basic text editor so my input on how to get the site back up is pretty useless.
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Re: Star Alliance bites the dust

Postby IskatuMesk » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:23 pm

Eh, most sites only really need a text editor. It'd be enough to just have access to the various campaigns and stuff.

I have no idea which part of the site was giving Lavarinth trouble at this point.
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