Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
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Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Shit's about to get real now, son.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121471
In summary - Blizzard's been negotiating with the major governing body of Korean Esports and failing, so they just ditched the whole effort. Since Blizzard holds copyright over the IP, shit could go downhill for Korean progaming in a jiffy.
Things that have already suffered by these two unmovable dopes include GOMTV's English-casted tournaments which KeSPA didn't like Blizzard supporting (Basically it wasn't making them any money so they shut it down to avoid competition), and potentially the rise of SC2's rating to AO in Korea (this is only speculation and there's no solid evidence for it, but it seems possible that someone could be pulling strings behind the scenes).
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121471
In summary - Blizzard's been negotiating with the major governing body of Korean Esports and failing, so they just ditched the whole effort. Since Blizzard holds copyright over the IP, shit could go downhill for Korean progaming in a jiffy.
Things that have already suffered by these two unmovable dopes include GOMTV's English-casted tournaments which KeSPA didn't like Blizzard supporting (Basically it wasn't making them any money so they shut it down to avoid competition), and potentially the rise of SC2's rating to AO in Korea (this is only speculation and there's no solid evidence for it, but it seems possible that someone could be pulling strings behind the scenes).
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Kespa can fuck itself. For too long esports has been held hostage in its greedy hands with their constant mismanagement and exploitation of those poor kids
Not that I have much confidence in Blizzard either, mind you; considering the server segregation bullshit. (AKA unable to do something a third party, free ladder did-- I don't give a shit about whatever technical limitations they sprout out-- it's just am excuse) Fucking pathetic. Meh.
Not that I have much confidence in Blizzard either, mind you; considering the server segregation bullshit. (AKA unable to do something a third party, free ladder did-- I don't give a shit about whatever technical limitations they sprout out-- it's just am excuse) Fucking pathetic. Meh.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Some people seem to think that Activision is largely responsible for sc2's continued downspiral across all fronts. I'm curious how strong of a claim that could be - to be frank, I'm not familiar with Activision's history all that well.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Blizzard would be morons if they were actually the saints that their fan boys claim they are, specially with their current performance. No, pretty sure it's a mutual benefit of greedy helps greedy by being greedier.
And the TL article comments were pretty bad and generic. If I had a ranking system from A-D the average of the collective readership of that article is about D+ at most, though at least they don't hack into people's personal lives like the Netizens do or mail bloody tampons as a love present.
And the TL article comments were pretty bad and generic. If I had a ranking system from A-D the average of the collective readership of that article is about D+ at most, though at least they don't hack into people's personal lives like the Netizens do or mail bloody tampons as a love present.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Royalties are unreasonable. Right.
I mean, when you're suppose to make a legitimate argument to cover your ass to the public, you don't just shine greed out like a flashlight. What's worse is some people not being capable of reading that. The better way to phrase it would be claiming to be willing to pay royalties and other subsidies as long as within reason, using the unknown factor of numbers to your advantage. Instead no, Korea is just as bad in E-sports talks as they are at covering Hyori Lee's plagarism from some ghetto Canadian girl band.
Greedy vs Greedy, the usual in business derp.
On the other hand, Blizzard's game isn't exactly up to par to be making demands right now.
Basically from legality, it comes down to Blizzard claiming to want control for the sake of corrective measures (ie: In case KESPA fucks over SC/SC2's image for example or let's say, tries to sex it up since that's what their PVs are all about right now) but obviously not sly enough to show restrain on the money grubbing. Kespa is doing the opposite, exposing Blizzard's greed to hide their own, while ignoring the fact that they are playing with another companies products and image without permission and can be held as a liability by Blizzard using only their "integrity" and "contributions" so far to slide off the real problems.
But yeah, it seems like TL has zero qualifying armchair lawyers, and those are good compared to the masses of mouth breathing fanboys of either side.
I mean, when you're suppose to make a legitimate argument to cover your ass to the public, you don't just shine greed out like a flashlight. What's worse is some people not being capable of reading that. The better way to phrase it would be claiming to be willing to pay royalties and other subsidies as long as within reason, using the unknown factor of numbers to your advantage. Instead no, Korea is just as bad in E-sports talks as they are at covering Hyori Lee's plagarism from some ghetto Canadian girl band.
Greedy vs Greedy, the usual in business derp.
On the other hand, Blizzard's game isn't exactly up to par to be making demands right now.
Basically from legality, it comes down to Blizzard claiming to want control for the sake of corrective measures (ie: In case KESPA fucks over SC/SC2's image for example or let's say, tries to sex it up since that's what their PVs are all about right now) but obviously not sly enough to show restrain on the money grubbing. Kespa is doing the opposite, exposing Blizzard's greed to hide their own, while ignoring the fact that they are playing with another companies products and image without permission and can be held as a liability by Blizzard using only their "integrity" and "contributions" so far to slide off the real problems.
But yeah, it seems like TL has zero qualifying armchair lawyers, and those are good compared to the masses of mouth breathing fanboys of either side.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Blizzard decided to backdoor the whole KeSPA thing and signed a contract with GOMtv
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127674
In short, Gom's tournament was one held a little while ago and featured free online viewing + a pay-per-view HD stream with English commentation by Tasteless, superdanielman, and a few alternates inbetween. It was funded by Blizzard, which made KeSPA freak out, and forced the teams to cancel their participation in the tournament effectively killing it (in season 2 iirc?? I forget which season this happened in, they did get at least 1 season through, and it had the biggest prize pool of any of the SK tournies iirc edit - They made it through season 3 apparently and then died after that).
Now GOM has exclusive broadcasting rights from Blizzard and is intended to be used as a focus to get at the other major companies (OGN, MBC) to make contracts with GOM in turn. Don't think KeSPA will give up without a fight, though...
Might not seem like a big deal to you guys but in fact this is HUGE.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127674
In short, Gom's tournament was one held a little while ago and featured free online viewing + a pay-per-view HD stream with English commentation by Tasteless, superdanielman, and a few alternates inbetween. It was funded by Blizzard, which made KeSPA freak out, and forced the teams to cancel their participation in the tournament effectively killing it (in season 2 iirc?? I forget which season this happened in, they did get at least 1 season through, and it had the biggest prize pool of any of the SK tournies iirc edit - They made it through season 3 apparently and then died after that).
Now GOM has exclusive broadcasting rights from Blizzard and is intended to be used as a focus to get at the other major companies (OGN, MBC) to make contracts with GOM in turn. Don't think KeSPA will give up without a fight, though...
Might not seem like a big deal to you guys but in fact this is HUGE.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
KeSPA is kind of fucked as their image is hurting right now after the gambling scandal means that they have a very very small chance of getting rights through legal action.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
I would care more if this game has the ability to last me until the next installment.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
It's going to be airing in direct competition with sc1. Blizzard is trying to kill BW.
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
I thought Kespa is required to stop broadcasting after the season is over in fall? Korean court favoring them yet?
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Re: Bluzzard vs KeSPA - Battle of the Money-Grabbers
Yes, that's what it looks like so far - no doubt they'll try to do something court-wise to change it. But, as it is, the airing times are already conflicting with each other.
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KeSPA....
I know....
I'm very concerned about it.
I'm just sighing...
They are corrupt...
I'm very concerned about it.
I'm just sighing...
They are corrupt...
One butterfly could cause a typhoon on the other side of the earth.