thebrowncloud wrote:I believe he is referring to chris' reviews and how he is pointing out everyone's projects' faults as well as comparing them.
Not at all. Chris made his honest opinions, and they were in fact personal opinions. The way it was expressed was coming from a bad corner of the pyche, and I didn't want that stuff around. You know why. And he didn't even read the genre: Historical/Documentary (or should I say, Warcraft II style?). It was just so aggressive I cannot tolerate the driving principle behind his actions.
Let's just say, Chris coming to this thread and taking the role he chose to take simply got my senses up to a breaking point. Somebody's gotta fend-off "mrs. phillips".
But understand this, that Chris is not to blame. Blame me, but know that I only wish to cut this kind of stuff. I hold nothing against Chris, he has boldly done what he thinks is right for him, but freedom ends where freedoms meet.
We should play some pool sometime, Chris, I like your style.
But it's not for everyone.
Remember guys, not everyone who seems to give help know what they're talking about; not everyone who helps have the right motives, even if they do know what they're doing. And I know you guys are more than capable of shrugging-off the likes of which not many have the ability to do so.
All I'm saying is that I cannot stand lording and oppression. This is built into me, but hey, I'm calm and everything is alright. I'd rather encourage others out there, and that's what I've been doing ever since I came here.
Krazy wrote:I do agree that some of his direct comparisons between projects was a bit much, but if the judges didn't want anyone responding to the campaigns, they would have made them private submissions to the judges, locked the contest threads when they were complete, and then released all the maps once all the judging was done. I think the judges want and expect people to provide feedback, hence why they keep project threads open even if they are canceled just in case people decide to update them.
When the judges did feel things were getting out of hand (such as the brief escapade in VE's thread) they have been more than willing to delete all off-topic comments. And when the judges feel like people are trying to sway them too much, they have been quite forthright with telling those people to stfu.
Not entirely true. You can actually ask Lav to close your thread, and it's really is up to you to accept things or not. And if people can say what they want without even showing some good grounds or reason, but just their impulse and gut-feeling, where's the glory in that?
But you know me well enough, Krazy. I really like how you make maps, and I believe one of these days you'll show some mercy to the apm-challenged individual such as myself? Plz? I like what you are trying to perfect in your works.
True, true. But I'm gonna have to agree with Gna on this one in that such kinds of reviews are very discouraging to potential new members of the community. If they see someone who is new to the community, like me and Tim or Gna (?) get some rather harsh and brutally honest feedback like "Played the very beginning and got bored so I gave up" or "Your campaign might be as good as blah's but maybe a bit worse" isn't exactly a heart-warming "welcome to CC!" The kind of stuff that new submitters should be getting for feedback (or even veterans) is "I liked this. I didn't like this and here is how you can improve it. Good (first) attempt. Despite the cons, I enjoyed playing it." I might just be crazy (no, not you, Krazy
) but communities tend to last longer when people aren't to critical of others and their work. If you need an example of such a community, look at SC2GDF. That place is a hell hole and coming across someone who isn't a complete asshole is nearly impossoble. Personally, I would like to see this community stay as far away from that kind of behavior as possible. It's a pretty big stereotype that fans of any Blizzard game are assholes that don't even respect the company that makes the games they love. I like that this place is different and I want it to stay that way.
Sorry for ranting.
Finally, someone who shares the concern. Somebody's gotta stand for the young and vulnerable. I'm here to nurture, and having seen what you guys are capable of, we can achieve something so awesome, CC will be remembered as a community who do not tear themselves from the inside, welcome the new without the traditional "gotta do the shadow walk first, dude". And we are just at the crossing towards this inevitable fate.
But, hey, who am I to say?
Oh, and I've been a lurker for years. Not actually new. I go way back 1999. Finished the campaign, got into the editor, released a campaign. Then I watched... I listened... from the murky depths... and then BOOM!
But the city was empty. So uh...
Now, enough of this trivial thing, and let's get things moving again, shall we?