Master Jademus Sreg wrote:
Thalraxal wrote: I also want to believe that the original Overmind created a human body for itself, imbuned with powerful psionic abilities, and that it went into hiding, with plans to continue its Grand Experiment, after its apparant demise at the hands of Tassadar.
Oh my god! The Overmind is Jesus!
The Overmind died for the sins of all Zerg-kind
Thalraxal wrote:AA7, you make a very good point about Kerrigan being the one to off Mengsk, and I do agree: she should have dibs on it. But just killing him doesn't really seem to be her style. She'd much rather leave him sitting in the ashes of his ruined empire. Which is why I think someone else will do the deed.
Hmm I don't entirely agree with your statement above. Kerrigan ALREADY left Mengsk sitting in the ashes of his ruined empire back in BW. It wouldn't make any sense to come back again after four years of relative quiet and repeat it again a second time, risking to have him again rebuilding his Dominion and posing a threat for her and her Swarm. No, this time she's coming after him. In my opinion, she would try to have his empire destroyed piece by piece first, trying to destroy all what Mengsk loves the most: his power. Once there's nothing left of it she will finish him off. That's what I think she will try to do (that's what I'd do if I was her, indeed).
About the Overmind, I think it would be interesting to have him back. I mean, a Cerebrate managed to reanimate the corpse of Stukov, and he was a merely human. Why would not the Overmind, a millenary creature supposed to be eternal and who embodied the whole of the Swarm be able to resurrect somehow? Also, it would be far more fun than having a third new mindless Overmind, which would be rather repetitive and boring.
Does Kerrigan really consider Mengsk and the Dominion a threat to her and the Swarm? I'm not sure. But I think she'd much rather give Mengsk a chance to rebuild, then come over and smash his little castles. Give him that sense of "everything you build, I'll destroy". I think she'd like to draw out his suffering for as long as possible.
On one hand, I find it hard to imagine that the Overmind never imagined that it could die, especially after the death of Zasz. It had to know that if the Protoss could kill one of his Cerebrates, they could kill him. On the other hand, it did consider itself to be The Eternal Will of the Swarm. But there is proof it considered the possibility: it gave Cerebrates the ability to merge into a new Overmind. If it believed itself truely immortal, why would it grant the Cerebrates the ability to do something that would be so unnecessary?
thebrowncloud wrote:As for the overmind thing, I don't think it is coming back. There seems to be a theme of flashbacks in WoL. I think the portrait is going to be for the purpose of showing flashback sequences, such as back to when Raynor and Tassadar fought the Overmind. I, for one, would actually be very disappointed if they made yet ANOTHER Overmind. We don't even know if the second Overmind is the same being as the first.
@Thal: The only known cerebrate that is likely still alive is Kaloth, the one who resurrected Stukov. But, then again, we don't have a confirmed kill on any cerebrate except Zasz. We do know, however, that the second Overmind was created from the merging of several cerebrates, which Daggoth was involved with and may have even been in the mix. It is safe to say that not EVERY cerebrate is dead, but I'd assume most are.
I've always had the impression that the Second Overmind was a brand new entity. But considering that it had no lines, and we never heard from any of the Cerebrates on that side of the Brood War, we'll never know. I don't think we'll see the return of the Overmind in Giant Brain Form any time soon. With the Hybrids, the return of the Xel'naga, Raynor's rebellion, artifacts that are THE KEY TO THE END OF ALL THINGS, and Kerrigan, I think Blizzard has enough plot points to cover for the time being. Which is why I like the Duran is the Overmind theory so much, it's the easiest way to smoothy integrated him back into the story without upsetting the balance.
As for the Cerebrates: Word of God has it that they are all dead: they couldn't survive without the Overmind. Metzen said it in an interview a while back.
I don't have a link to the interview, but I do have a copy of Metzen's quote handy:
Chris Metzen wrote:“Daggoth is dead, along with the rest of the cerebrates. Kerrigan is the sole power behind the Swarm now. It’s possible that Daggoth could not sustain himself without the Overmind and other cerebrates to power him. We’ve suggested before that the Overmind and its cerebrates were symbiotically linked. The cerebrates were not designed to exist without their creator. That’s a partial reason behind the cerebrates’ merging into a new, singular Overmind during the early events of Brood War.”
Alas, poor Daggoth. I knew thee well.
thebrowncloud wrote:And you could say that Duran pretty much fits that description you provided of the Overmind in human form. The Overmind's goal was to invade Aiur and assimilate the protoss into the Swarm, which he failed in the latter aspect. Duran, however, did not. And both of them are thousands of years old. Duran is basically the new Overmind, but he dropped his zerg for a far superior army.
That's exactly what I was hinting at. Proud supporter of the Duran is The Overmind theory since 2002.