Contest's Campaigns

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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Ricky_Honejasi » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:07 am

Desler wrote:Glad you are still reviewing even if you don't post the logs.  I was going to suggest that anyway.  It's too bad about Oracle, although I'm impressed to see that the rules of the contest are not exempting anyone, even respected authors. 


Basically, there was a little something that prevented me from accessing the forums thus posting no updates for a while but I was still reviewing the campaigns in the background nonetheless.

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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby UntamedLoli » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:09 pm

Seriously deadlines are deadlines, this is just getting silly now.
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Lavarinth » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:36 pm

Delays, on my account, don't account of 10 points out of professionalism. There are multiple aspects in professionalism, but I'm sure Oracle is aware that such delays will truly hinder his opportunity to place in top three, so I don't believe it will be an issue to post the reviews.
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby tipereth » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:51 pm

'Making deadlines' shouldn't be any part of the point rating system, it should just be expected.

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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby thebrowncloud » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:18 pm

Krazy wrote:Total days allotted all other candidates: 55 + 2 for extended deadline

Additional days past extended deadline granted to oracle: so far: 11

If the extra days are thought of as a percentage of the total contest, that comes out to: 19.3% (about 20%, or 1/5th of the entire contest). 

I would also like to point out that there was an entire second contest created specifically for people who did not have the time to complete the 4-years contest.

Lavarinth wrote:Wondering why this [the JZ] contest was created? This contest is for all those who find themselves unable to have the time to create a campaign, ...


So there's at least five things that really bother me about this:

1) There was already a 2-day extension on the 4-years contest for last minute adjustments.

2)  There was a separate contest created specifically for people without the time for the 4-years contest.

3) Oracle did not release *any* screenshot or any visual representation of his campaign at all before *every other entry was submitted publically*.  The problems here should be abundantly evident. 

4) Oracle himself did not make the announcement that his project was going to be late, instead the head judge did so for him.  That is pretty much the sketchiest thing ever.

5) Judging had already started when the "late submission" announcement was made.

I'm tempted to make some joke that we should change the name to the "5-years between" contest what with the extra fifth of time given.

Personally I feel like these shenanigans are an insult to everyone who submitted in this contest.  Oracle can threaten to not release the last map or not, I feel like some people are probably thinking these same things but refuse to say them because they don't want to look like a jerk.  The campaign itself I still want to play, but I feel like with the "dead"line is fading faster and faster from view and becoming a joke. 


To be honest, I think the joke is on the judges. I have no problem with Oracle handing this in late, knowing that he is almost guaranteed to not make the top three. However, the leniency has gotten to the point where the judges for future contest won't be taken as seriously when they give a deadline. Contestents will find excuses to throw at the judges so that they might have more time to the point where the dealine will be seemingly indefinite. This situation isn't at all hindering to Oracle's reputation, but the reputation of the judges and any future contests this website will host (if any).

Once again, to all contestents (including Oracle): best of luck in the judging!
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Lavarinth » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:20 pm

I don't see why you're all so antsy and uppity when I've stated multiple times he will be docked for being late alongside wont reach the top three positions. So let me make it simple for you all: Shut it, because I'm tired of your unnecessary bickering that has been already taken care of. Some of you are acting like children who want their candy when I already said you're getting it.
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Ricky_Honejasi » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:54 pm

Well, since it's pretty much settled, I guess ill go on and post my testing logs of those I tested ...

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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Ricky_Honejasi » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:41 am

Laconius' Vile Egression's testing log posted :

http://www.campaigncreations.org/forum/http://www.campaigncreations.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=29093#p29093

And I won't be doing more testing for today and the next two days. Although, when ill come back to it, even more paper will be sacrificed for testing.

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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Dem0nS1ayer » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:39 pm

You guys should play mine, even though it's one of the longer ones (like 20 missions)!   ;D
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby thebrowncloud » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:25 pm

Dem0nS1ayer wrote:You guys should play mine, even though it's one of the longer ones (like 20 missions)!   ;D

Don't worry. I'll get to yours. My internet finally works so I can download them all  now. Gonna finish up with Jim_Raynor's, then finish the rest of VE, the I'm not sure which one I'll do. Maybe yours. Expect a review!
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby Dem0nS1ayer » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:30 pm

Wait, don't play mine just yet.  I realized that there's a huge problem in the last mission.  Please use this version instead.  I'll take whatever penalty you give me for this super late update, but this bug completely kills the map.

http://www.filefront.com/14294497/TR05.scx
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby thebrowncloud » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:33 pm

Dem0nS1ayer wrote:Wait, don't play mine just yet.  I realized that there's a huge problem in the last mission.  Please use this version instead.  I'll take whatever penalty you give me for this super late update, but this bug completely kills the map.

http://www.filefront.com/14294497/TR05.scx


Hehe, some of our maps are broken, too. No big deal. If I were you, I'd stick with the version you submitted on time. The late penalty would outway any good it would do. Regardless, I'll play ur updated version.  ;)
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby The Oracle » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:16 pm

@ all who are upset about my campaign release delays:

To say I misjudged the timeframes required to make the maps, trigger them, create the voice fx, etc. is an understatement.  And I happily forfeit my placing in this contest.  Please stop bothering Lavarinth about it. 

In terms of the last map, I suppose it does not matter anymore whether or not I finish it but I do hope that you all enjoyed the first three and I'll take feedback I've received to date into consideration for modifying certain parts to further polish them off.

CC rocks and I look forward to seeing what everyone does in the next contest and StarCraft 2!
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Re: Contest's Campaigns

Postby chris » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:53 am

chris wrote:Hey, hold on! we want to finish playing it! Who cares about the bloody competition! :'(

At least finish map 4 for the sake of those who like your work. Just because its not a part of a competition doesn't mean people aren't going to be interested in playing it. You didn't make LotC for a competition now did you?
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