Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

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Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby AA7Dragoon » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:50 pm

http://www.sc2mapster.com/

They're getting linked off of Husky on Youtube and receiving a lot of hits for the community they are developing.  I'd hate to see CC lose out on a developing fanbase because these guys become the "go-to" for the map development community.

They even linked some of the stuff (Survivors cinematic) that we have here on their news page.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Alevice » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:13 pm

Not that I care much about SC2Mpaster from a developer standpoint after the editor was out, but CC's current fanbase is nonexistant outside the vets
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Postby thebrowncloud » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:04 am

Well, Gna posted that video there. That was his choice. That doesn't have really anything to do with their community other than it attracts people from here as well. Seems like a good place to post stuff for easy, quick recognition, but their community seems to be..... younger? I can't think of the word for it, but the level of maturity seems to be slightly lower in the way the speak.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby IskatuMesk » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:06 am

That site is run by Curse. CC can't compete with that directly, no point in even trying. Maybe if CC had a stronger get-go much earlier on with an existing community it could have gotten to that point but they have a lot of tool developers and such there which assures their position as #1 now much like wc3c did for wc3.

What will define CC early on will be largely what Oracle and Desler do followed by RCX if he does anything, as those are established names.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Mr. » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:38 am

Well, it's a decent site.  I've actually been checking their forums and tutorials on the editor, lately, when I've come across something I can't figure out. 
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby thebrowncloud » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:41 am

I have one idea that might help switch over some of that community. I noticed that the site is primarily custom game maps (at least from what I saw) and the talk about campaigns was relatively limited. If we post videos and screenshots of our campaigns, like Gna has done, to get the hype up on their forums, but then tell them they will only be available for download on the CC forums, they might associate CC as the place for campaigns. Getting the custom game designer crowd IS hopeless, but I think we can still get some of the campaign makers/players.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Marco » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:44 am

Remember, map development and campaign community aren't necessarily associated even though they are closely related.  Campaign Creations was lucky to have DI during our beginning area, as he was responsible for the majority of tutorials and technical documents.  This site will likely be a library of fiction, whereas a site like SC2Mapster would be more technical in nature, or maybe hybridic.  Yep, hybridic.

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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Lavarinth » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:08 pm

To all of you who it does concern, which is all of you:

I am glad to see you all absolutely concerned with the presence of this SC2Mapster. Fortunately, they appear to be nice fellows and I hope we can form a relationship in the future and 'get it on.' Although yes, they are ran by Curse, so it will beg to question exactly how community driven they are compared to a download site. This'll be the major difference between the future of Campaign Creations to any site. The new Campaign Creations will present itself as a showcase site for all projects hosted within, with a community forum. After such is established, we will begin to revamp our efforts to utilize new-age web tools to enhance the community interaction with tutorials, questions, etc to be solved through a more widely participated system rather than one single editor (that being myself) doing all the work to update and host tutorials.

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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby IskatuMesk » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:25 pm

Marco wrote:Remember, map development and campaign community aren't necessarily associated even though they are closely related.


That is the critical difference. Like wc3c was with wc3, Sc2mapster is oriented primarily around individual maps and not mods or campaigns. Even Hive workshop is still just oriented around maps with the very rare campaign because the majority of members there do not possess the skills or desire to make large projects. SA became the host of all the major campaign projects save WoS, but virtually none of them ever reached release, and saw the most campaign-related activity as a result.

What CC needs now is to show it's alive and active. Maybe if we released something regularly... some way of communicating to people. Articles are boring. No one visits forums. We can't make videos... maybe... audio shows? What about a podcast? Does that sound like a neat idea to you guys? A podcast run by the staff, regularly released on specific intervals. Sounds pretty cool to me! Maybe if we show we can keep a podcast going we could use our other outlets - like perhaps my youtube channel, and Whiplash's connections - to get the word out who we are and what we do.

Oh what a golden opportunity that would have been.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby RazorclawX » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:28 pm

Keep in mind we are different people than we were 15 years ago and don't have the same disposable time. I long for the days when I could churn things out pretty fast, but then, I didn't have anything else better to do back then.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby IskatuMesk » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:44 pm

Yeah. That's kind of like when I'd tell Magic/Xaran, "We really need some new blood to bring back the life to this community".
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Black Dream » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:46 pm

I decided to look at the cc2000 map and it gave me an idea.

Perhaps we could create a map/whatever to act as a teaser or an advertisement for CC.  It could give a teaser of every campaign, or something along those lines.
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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Xelxiuz » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:21 pm

Mancatcher commentaries and podcasts. Hilarity ensues.

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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Magic » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:21 pm

IskatuMesk wrote:Yeah. That's kind of like when I'd tell Magic/Xaran, "We really need some new blood to bring back the life to this community".

Eh? You've never ever said that, not once!


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Re: Who is this imposter, and what is Lavarinth going to do about it?

Postby Whiplash! » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:15 pm

I've been telling lav we essentially need new blood for months... he says we got big plans but will we actually end up getting any content out? I am not so optimistic beyond Oracle/RCX.
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