Somebody can tell me About CC. History? Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next        Campaign Creations Forum Index -> The Archive View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message DrumsofWar Spaminator Posts: 3554 Joined: 29 Jun 2002 Location: Sora Post subject: JoelS wrote: I just wanted to chime in and point out that there is at least one largescale, mod-filled, huge new campaign for WC3 nearing its completion, and that's Return of The Dragon, by Darkeagle (Darky) over at WC3C. He also has a previous completed campaign under his belt, but I haven't played it. I have however played some of ROTD in beta, and found the maps pretty impressive. The scale of the project alone is prasieworthy. Darky has lined up a ton of very talented contributors who have provided new models for units and buildings, new skins, new item models, new icons by the dozen, and alot more. I personally have contributed 9 new icons (many for new units' new spells) and a 10 track musical score. It really is a giant project, and he's close to wrapping it up, with 8 of the 10 maps completed. Maybe people here could look to ROTD for some inspiration to get off their behinds and make something for everyone to enjoy, and to see that a largescale project with lots of original content can still be completed these days. Here's the link: Return Of The Dragon I'm also surprised that more people haven't followed RCX's lead in making projects which can be completed by an individual or small team. The general attitude of the community around here, from what I've observed, is far less creative and willing to work than when CC was churning out maps (if not whole complete campaigns) during the peak of SC. Back then there were always people starting up new projects, always new campaigns on the horizon. However much their quality levels varied, at least people were making the effort to have fun in a creative way, using SC as a medium to tell stories to the best of their ability. Where is that spirit now? Was WC3 that dull to most of you? My advice, which nobody ever follows, is: "make stuff". If you're new to modding / campaign making, start small. Shoot for attainable goals. Finish a small project, release it, apply for hosting somewhere (here, even), find out what you did right and what you did wrong, and start again ... maybe on something more ambitious... but most importantly, make something! Don't be just a passive observer, leeching off whatever content you can find. Contribute! Start something. Be creative. But do you think that campaign is going to be the spark that ignites everything? The other problem, or well, concern, is that a lot of people are still refusing to leave Brood War for Warcraft III, me and a lot of people at SA and Gameproc included. It's a good thing for the BW community, but it robs the WCIII community of some vital talent. No, not me. I just personally think the WCIII bandwagon is being pushed and not pulled at this point. _________________ Quote: 1 Mattz 3872 2 Quantam 3571 3 DrumsofWar 3509 The wars are over....and you, you no longer exist! Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:16 am Author Message AA7Dragoon Frost Wyrm Rider Posts: 1070 Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, Washington Post subject: Thank you for your input here Joel and Desler. And especially to you Desler for writing up the foundation history of Campaign Creations and going through all that trouble. I sincerely apologize for my cold behavior towards you and hope when your ready, you'll one day come back to us with something bigger than Celestial Irruption ever was Thank you for the .com. It has so much history in the forums. Its unbelievable. _________________ Six year Veteran and counting... Palin ( April 13, 2001 ) : "Damn, so close to taking over CC too... ... You heard nothing!" Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:46 am Author Message AA7Dragoon Frost Wyrm Rider Posts: 1070 Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, Washington Post subject: Quote:   Well it's Friday + a lecture from AA7   (Date posted: April 6th, 2001 at 3:50:49pm) Logged Alright it's Friday, and I am announcing my last day as CCF President of this forum.  It's been an OK quarter I guess, I was hoping to make a tournament for you all but the recent events proved otherwise.  Anyways, yes it's Friday and there has been no voting and so forth.  Therefore I am declaring that I was the first and last Campaign Creations Forum President, a failed experiment.  It's disappointing, but it turned out that most of you prefer a blind "vote for me" than the actual process.  Therefore this position is absolved. Second, is my personal thoughts on what has been posted these last three days.  Frankly, I am sick of it. There has been so much pointless spam, I've wasted twenty minutes going over just the first page of recent threads.  I find myself skipping Nitefox's posts, as well as Raziel's and just basically the whole thing.  I have posted, recently to stop pointless spamming of "sup", and yet, this forum continues to make threads saying "hi how is everyone".  Example, JIMMY's thread of hi got 59 replies, less than ten were actually "welcome posts".  Most of the rest was pointless spam! DON'T POST IF THERE IS NOTHING TO POST ABOUT!  You are cutting down threads that are important with stupid pointless ones of your own.  You know who you are, so stop it.  You only have these large post records because 3/4's of everything you post make no sense.  Your not a vetern as the rank says, nor are you a "renowned hero".  I want to make it clear, I will be attacking these kinds of pointless spam posts from now on, until this Infoceptor spirit goes down.  I ask other forumers to join me in this boycott of ridiculousness.  NO MORE!  This forum is getting worse and worse!  Thats all, and good day! What a little a-hole I was back then. I was going over a few other threads and boy, what a prick. Still fun to read and my grammar wasn't all that bad though. _________________ Six year Veteran and counting... Palin ( April 13, 2001 ) : "Damn, so close to taking over CC too... ... You heard nothing!" Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:55 am Author Message AA7Dragoon Frost Wyrm Rider Posts: 1070 Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, Washington Post subject: http://web.archive.org/web/20010420051112/www.campaigncreations.com/forumcc/YaBB.cgi?board=General+Discussion&action=display&num=987141707 Read Palin's last post in this thread.. _________________ Six year Veteran and counting... Palin ( April 13, 2001 ) : "Damn, so close to taking over CC too... ... You heard nothing!" Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:16 am Author Message Magic Cold Wraith Posts: 981 Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Location: UK Post subject: AA7Dragoon wrote: http://web.archive.org/web/20010420051112/www.campaigncreations.com/forumcc/YaBB.cgi?board=General+Discussion&action=display&num=987141707 Read Palin's last post in this thread.. *Lol!* Good one! But your three posts in a row is NOT! _________________ -Magic SAVAGE- Voice Actors for mods. Because the voices must flow. - We've got mods and stuff. "It was a nice butt by the way."-AA7 Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:16 am Author Message Tipereth Ner'zhul's Chosen Posts: 1812 Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Location: Kusari System Post subject: Its scary to admit, but I only found CC because I was looking for maps on starcraft.org, and New Avalon Arena came up. _________________ Carter:It could be booby trapped. Teal'C: Booby? O'Neill: Nonetheless, I really appreciate you coming to see how I was doing. That reallymeans something. Jackson: Uh, no, it doesn't. O'Neill: What? Jackson: We drew straws and I lost. Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:13 pm Author Message SigmaMagnus Crypt Fiend Groupie Posts: 650 Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Location: Cake Post subject: OMG I remember the layout from 1999. It was there for a short while after I joined. _________________ Rei is so hot! "Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling and missing the ground." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:13 pm Author Message TheAvenger Necromancer Posts: 890 Joined: 10 Jul 2002 Location: Washington, DC. Post subject: SigmaMagnus wrote: OMG I remember the layout from 1999. It was there for a short while after I joined. I remember the 2001 Layout, I didn't start coming here till early 2000. But I don't remember any other layout. I was 12 then lol. Sigma Magnus wrote: No, silly, I am 13 And Sigma if your 13 now, you must have been very young in 1999, what, 8? 9?... Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:26 pm Author Message JoelS Blighted One Posts: 27 Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Post subject: DrumsofWar wrote: JoelS wrote: ... Here's the link: Return Of The Dragon ... But do you think that campaign is going to be the spark that ignites everything? The other problem, or well, concern, is that a lot of people are still refusing to leave Brood War for Warcraft III, me and a lot of people at SA and Gameproc included. It's a good thing for the BW community, but it robs the WCIII community of some vital talent. No, not me. I just personally think the WCIII bandwagon is being pushed and not pulled at this point. I can't say if ROTD will reach enough of an audience to inspire a legion of campaignmakers. I do think people looking for War3 content to play ought to check it out, though, as it would seem to be offering alot of the things people like to see. It's pretty apparent that CC is not at the center of War3 modding / campaignmaking. WC3C is, regardless of what you think of its admins or practices, the place where people seem to go to see War3 content... and I would imagine that ROTD will only cement that position for them, should they promote it properly (which I don't think is being done now). For all the hype Rise of Krill had, and its spectacular failure to deliver, you'd think they would be ardently promoting a project that's ten times better and very near to completion more than they are. I think CC could definitely regain relevance and return to a more prominent position in the world of custom content creation with some effort from the people who frequent this forum. Enough people post here that certainly a few small teams could be formed to make some campaigns. I don't understand why people would even come to a place like this unless they had an interest in creating original content for their favorite games. RCX continuing to churn out content is great, and there are some.. other things... in the works to bring a bit more content to CC, but that doesn't excuse the 'community' of people on this forum from contributing to the site and helping it to grow and gain in popularity. Unless you all just don't care about that sort of thing and are content to chat away in your personal corner of the net. I assumed that when I stopped working on so many campaigns, and when Desler stopped, and when Oracle stopped, and when Auspex stopped, that there would be a new wave of people similar to us that would step in and make amazingly cool new content for people to play. With a few noted exceptions, that hasn't happened yet. So c'mon people, step up to the plate and deliver that game winning homerun of a campaign that will put CC in the center of attention again. -edit - I also ought to add that over at Gameproc, they have 'The Tavern' in production, which could turn out to be a pretty impressive project when it's done. Come on, CC... I mean, come on! Make some cool stuff! Get going! Do something creative! If this is the site you call 'home', show your team spirit and get a new mod / campaign going. Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:18 pm Author Message The Warchief Shade Posts: 15 Joined: 08 Jul 2002 Location: New York Post subject: I remember the old days... yeah it was really incredible what CC and its community accomplished. I also remember really anticipating the conclusion to Lotc (my favorite). Oh well you can't always get what you want. I agree with Joel though people should step up to the plate. Unfortunately for me I'm inept at most of the things (like map making) required to do this stuff, and believe me I tried with Starcraft. I tried really hard..... and failed... Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:31 pm Author Message PhoenixReaver Shade Posts: 1 Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Post subject: Whoa. Talk about nostalgia. I've been a constant lurker mostly, although not for quite some time now. Posted a bit during the first forums, I remember I was a huge DI fanboy. Anyway, I basically registered to tell you guys that Lucainan and Codebreaker both post at Antioch's forums. Not as much lately, but they do post. Oh, and Admiral Styles also posts there now and then. http://www.antiochforever.com/forums is where you will find them, in case you want to say hi to people from your past. Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:48 pm Author Message MantisScreamer Spaminator Posts: 3229 Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Location: Ghettos of New York. Post subject: I'm working on a tc, I just need to get some progress done with it! _________________ My skin tutorial: http://www.campaigncreations.org/warcraft/worldedit/mantis-skinning.shtml Click here for the official CC parties thread! Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:59 pm Author Message Tipereth Ner'zhul's Chosen Posts: 1812 Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Location: Kusari System Post subject: Unfortunatly, RotD is going to be terrible for the community. Antioch was good because, not only was it good, it wasn't outstanding. It left room for improvement. RotD has JASS, models, and tons of other stuff that no one else does. It's only going to discourage people from making campaigns. The thing is, any campaign could be the push the community needs. The problem is doing them. For example, I have a story idea, and campaign ideas, that could easily astound people. Why doesn't anyone see or hear them? Because I've accomplished little on the part of bringing them to life. Mantis' TC has a decent premise, and with a little help, it could very well be the thing the community needs. Such a pity that Mantis has no idea what the spell editor can or can't do. _________________ Carter:It could be booby trapped. Teal'C: Booby? O'Neill: Nonetheless, I really appreciate you coming to see how I was doing. That reallymeans something. Jackson: Uh, no, it doesn't. O'Neill: What? Jackson: We drew straws and I lost. Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:55 pm Author Message AA7Dragoon Frost Wyrm Rider Posts: 1070 Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, Washington Post subject: I think the WarCraft editor perhaps is so advanced and complex its discouraging players from creating their own campaigns. Before the editor was so simple like StarEdit Emerald. To make a map you just needed to figure out how triggers worked. Now if your making a campaign for WC, your expected to change all the spells and heroes abilities and create complex cinematics with great camera angles along with fancy terrain with high and low elevations. Its just so much more work for the average joe map maker. And for those who enjoy the modding challenge, they can't customize their own system since the enhancements are already in the WC world editor. I don't know, just my theory. _________________ Six year Veteran and counting... Palin ( April 13, 2001 ) : "Damn, so close to taking over CC too... ... You heard nothing!" Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:06 pm Author Message Shelf of Justice Prophet of Pie Posts: 846 Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Location: Awesome Post subject: AA7Dragoon wrote: I think the WarCraft editor perhaps is so advanced and complex its discouraging players from creating their own campaigns. Before the editor was so simple like StarEdit Emerald. To make a map you just needed to figure out how triggers worked. Now if your making a campaign for WC, your expected to change all the spells and heroes abilities and create complex cinematics with great camera angles along with fancy terrain with high and low elevations. Its just so much more work for the average joe map maker. And for those who enjoy the modding challenge, they can't customize their own system since the enhancements are already in the WC world editor. I don't know, just my theory. It's quite possible to create decent maps without 50 custom abilities. People are just under the misguided impression that they need to add tons of useless junk to maps. The same thing happened in StarCraft--it was simply on a smaller scale. Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:09 pm Author Message SigmaMagnus Crypt Fiend Groupie Posts: 650 Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Location: Cake Post subject: JoelS wrote: RCX continuing to churn out content is great, and there are some.. other things... in the works to bring a bit more content to CC, but that doesn't excuse the 'community' of people on this forum from contributing to the site and helping it to grow and gain in popularity. Unless you all just don't care about that sort of thing and are content to chat away in your personal corner of the net. Hint Hint? _________________ Rei is so hot! "Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling and missing the ground." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:12 pm Author Message Shelf of Justice Prophet of Pie Posts: 846 Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Location: Awesome Post subject: I'd also like to note that making allusions to my aims for taking over the site was much more fun than taking over the site. Seriously, this job sucks, I don't get paid or anything. Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:37 pm Author Message CrazyShanker Spaminator Posts: 2860 Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Location: Behind you while you type Post subject: Meh. You get to make fun of people. That's good payment already. _________________ I demand pie... And a barrel of whipped cream!!! "In difficult ground, press on. In encircled ground, devise strategems. In death ground, fight." --Sun Tzu "Goddammit! This is what happens when you let rednecks play with antimatter!" --General Jack Horner "Conventional military wisdom calls fo tenpenny nails when making improvised claymores. I find they lack creativity... I prefer roofing nails." --Major Michael Ryan Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:44 pm Author Message SigmaMagnus Crypt Fiend Groupie Posts: 650 Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Location: Cake Post subject: I think to make this forum fun, we need some easy rules. Make some spam threads. Give someone a laugh. Everything here is boring. Give people a break. Tell shanker to STFU. (Because he isn't cool) Don't call me a spam whore. Invite some vets back. Tell me where antioch is. ButtSeckz me. Also, be fun. Fun=cool. !fun=gay. _________________ Rei is so hot! "Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling and missing the ground." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Last edited by SigmaMagnus on Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:51 pm; edited 1 time in total Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:50 pm Author Message AdmiralQuezacotl Frost Wyrm King Posts: 1108 Joined: 28 Jun 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Post subject: OKay, exact date from which I have been here would be March 2002. EDIT: Prepares to Abandon CC based on SM's post. _________________ http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=7vxt2462 <- Join my virtual army Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:50 pm Author Message SigmaMagnus Crypt Fiend Groupie Posts: 650 Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Location: Cake Post subject: OMG nub. JK JK JK. but seriously... BUTTSECKZ _________________ Rei is so hot! "Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling and missing the ground." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:51 pm Author Message CrazyShanker Spaminator Posts: 2860 Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Location: Behind you while you type