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been discussing the state of the community for a while now with various
folks, and I'm trying a few different ideas to get things moving around
here. |
Well, that's good to hear from you. The 'Palin Sig' thread just seemed
to be a load of bitching - to and from people - and nothing really
constructive, until DoW injected some neutral intelligence into it.
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main thing missing from War3 modding is really an Antioch--it really
inspired a great deal of the original StarCraft modding stuff.
Something akin to that--a professional, Blizzard-quality campaign could
well give this community the kick it needs. Unfortunately, such a
campaign is not for me to make, nor do I foresee much of anyone
currently making stuff pulling it off. |
That's exactly what I said a few months ago in an article, but a certain someone got pissed off and had a major go at me.
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has the complete list of the Gallantry Team? I'm sure Magic would know
everyone who participated in that campaign. I must say, for the first
mission it was very good. |
Let's see...
Project leaders (Wrote scripts, did general work, acted as producer):
Desler, then Xavier. I was almost leader at one point, but I was too
busy... then Bahamut Zero when Xavier left (But he didn't do as much).
General staff: Magic, Maglok, Mingvana (Xavier's brother - expert
sound guru), Razorclaw_X, Wargiant, Desler (After leaving as leader),
Joel (Did music at least), Bahamut Zero.
General meaning they did a mixture of work - such as ideas, sound
editing, voice acting, artwork, composing, mapwork, technical work,
triggers...
Voice actors only: NiteFox, Kalia (sp. Oracle's girlfriend, but due
to overly harsh criticism by someone, she got upset and left), Legion
(aka Macphisto), ZeusLegion.
Wow. Quite a lot of people, especially for one of the last major SC
campaigns ever. We gave it a pretty damn good shot, did a lot of work,
but didn't get to finish it all off due to many reasons. I dream of how
it may have been ... but what's done is done, and my memories of it are
happy ones.
A bright dream indeed.
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I must say the Picture Thread was very groundbreaking in being personal
between forumers. I believe that is also the thread where Desler posted
his hair. The only body part we ever saw of him. |
The opposite nearly applies to me.
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ReaperOfSouls
doing POAR(Purity of A Race). Who remembers the super campaigns Target
Earth and Biohazard(I think It was BioSomething). They were going to
use these "super" editors but unfortunately they were all a con . |
Correct. 'Bioweapons' I believe it was called. Not sure what the deal
was, but something to do with some lame liars being idiots. *Yawn.*
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Many year Ago. I was play Starcraft:Gundam century.
And I don't know anything about Creator.
Who is Kurenaijiku? And Where is StarCraft:Gundam century Official Site? |
Some damn software pirates in Asia actually started SELLING it and
so Kuren ended all development of it. Extreme action, but I don't blame
him - people ripping you off to get money off your freely-made work
that you do as a hobby is pretty despicable. _________________ -Magic
SAVAGE- Voice Actors for mods. Because the voices must flow.
- We've got mods and stuff.
"It was a nice butt by the way."-AA7 |
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Project leaders (Wrote scripts, did general work, acted as producer):
Desler, then Xavier. I was almost leader at one point, but I was too
busy... then Bahamut Zero when Xavier left (But he didn't do as much). |
Yeah, Xavier was the Gallantry's leader for quite a while. And a bad
one. The project was going well when Desler was in charge, but then
Xavier came and things were different. Then the Gallantry went
downwards.
Anyway, those were the days for CC. We don't have that kind of
dedication or creativity, or whatever you wanna call it, anymore. Gone
are the great projects, gone is the inspiration. It's too bad, really. |
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One.
m0g got famous by his pathetic wit, Newrand Citadel, and pretending he
was me. Bnet Experience was after about two years tenure at CC.
Two. Adun got famous just because he's Adun. He's like Michael Jackson. Just as sexually neutral.
Three. CC went fucking downhill the second I joined. I mean, damn,
I have maybe twenty thousand posts here in total, and that's more than
the staffers on all the forums combined. _________________
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The wars are over....and you, you no longer exist! |
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CC. is a Best of StarCrft Campaign Site.
Many year Ago. I was play Starcraft:Gundam century.
And I don't know anything about Creator.
Who is Kurenaijiku? And Where is StarCraft:Gundam century Official Site? |
http://www.genesoul.net/gundamcentury/index.html _________________ - RobDDav
DW Staff
Castlebunker: RobDDav is a genius for all technical utilities
Metathrom: RobDDav is a genius for all his Stargraft work! |
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| Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:39 am |
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I've
been here long enough to remember the days when Magic, TPC, and Palin
all actually spammed instead of making intelligent posts.
Damn, I feel old. _________________
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| Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:47 am |
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Project leaders (Wrote scripts, did general work, acted as
producer): Desler, then Xavier. I was almost leader at one point, but I
was too busy... then Bahamut Zero when Xavier left (But he didn't do as
much). |
Yeah, Xavier was the Gallantry's leader for quite a while. And a bad
one. The project was going well when Desler was in charge, but then
Xavier came and things were different. Then the Gallantry went
downwards.
Anyway, those were the days for CC. We don't have that kind of
dedication or creativity, or whatever you wanna call it, anymore. Gone
are the great projects, gone is the inspiration. It's too bad, really. |
Inspiration? I don't think any of the numerous cancelled projects for
StarCraft were especially inspired or dedicated. I'm personally plenty
inspired with my projects, I just take a hell of a long time to plan
stuff out. And the projects I'm capable of in War3 are a hell of a lot
greater than those that were even possible in StarCraft. The only
problem right now is lack of people DOING stuff. |
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That
was the same problem in the SC community. It took two years to bring
forth Desler, RCX, you, Oracle, Joel and all the other lumaries.
It took the spark of Antioch, and right now, either no one's daring
to make a large spark or the flintstones being grinded just suck ass. _________________
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Perhaps
it all has to do with the generation of gamers. When StarCraft came out
years ago, it was our generation which was producing and going further
in making the best custom abilities and campaigns possible. As we got
older, real life began to take its toll with college, work, etc. And
the new generation which has replaced us and is suppose to be producing
great things with WarCraft aren't doing anything. I really believe our
generation was the true gamers. Now we have these kids whos first games
were Pokémon while we were playing Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star,
dreaming of greater things to come.
Blame the tweens. _________________ Six year Veteran and counting...
Palin ( April 13, 2001 ) : "Damn, so close to taking over CC too... ... You heard nothing!" |
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No,
silly, I am 13 and my first game ever was Warcraft (meaning Warcraft
1.) Also, people should first make campaigns, and then make the mods.
Modding is stupid if there is no story. That is why Final Fantasies 1-7
were better than all of the ones after. I would much rather play FF5
than FF 10, 9, or 8. _________________
Rei is so hot!
"Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling and
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| Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:11 am |
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Project leaders (Wrote scripts, did general work, acted as producer):
Desler, then Xavier. I was almost leader at one point, but I was too
busy... then Bahamut Zero when Xavier left (But he didn't do as much). |
Yeah, Xavier was the Gallantry's leader for quite a while. And a bad
one. The project was going well when Desler was in charge, but then
Xavier came and things were different. Then the Gallantry went
downwards.
Anyway, those were the days for CC. We don't have that kind of
dedication or creativity, or whatever you wanna call it, anymore. Gone
are the great projects, gone is the inspiration. It's too bad, really. |
Inspiration? I don't think any of the numerous cancelled projects for
StarCraft were especially inspired or dedicated. I'm personally plenty
inspired with my projects, I just take a hell of a long time to plan
stuff out. And the projects I'm capable of in War3 are a hell of a lot
greater than those that were even possible in StarCraft. The only
problem right now is lack of people DOING stuff. |
And why aren't they doing stuff? Lack of 'inspiration' or 'dedication'
perhaps? Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging here. I'm just stating the
obvious.
You say the cancelled Starcraft stuff wasn't inspired. You're right
- that's why they were cancelled, but I was talking about the finished
stuff. There were actually a lot of quite good Starcraft campaigns
around back in the day.
As I see it right now, CC is done for. It had its peak a few years
ago, a site with a lot of cool stuff for Starcraft fans, a cool staff,
and a forum to discuss things. And now it's just a forum. Without this
forum, CC wouldn't have any visitors. |
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I
(as Tipereth) came into existance about two or three years ago, right
around the time that CI was at it's peak. Most of the forum people wont
remember me, but thats because they were forum people, I posted on the
news threads until TPC shut them down. I was silent (at CC) for about a
year, and returned to post when RoC came out. I've been doing a whole
lot of nothing work on my campaign, and the only thing I've done for
the community was maybe partially inspiring KoS. _________________ Carter:It could be booby trapped.
Teal'C: Booby?
O'Neill: Nonetheless, I really appreciate you coming to see how I was doing. That reallymeans something.
Jackson: Uh, no, it doesn't.
O'Neill: What?
Jackson: We drew straws and I lost. |
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Special thanks to Adun for keeping it all these years. And now for an explanation:
Each one of the flames was a phrase that was popular at CC the time of
this sig's creation. I believe it was right before Gallantry was to be
announced, and the main page was changed to show the gallantry instead
of the classic layout.
Top right: Kinky.
Patented by: Lucainan
First used: I think he used it in the Magic's Ass thread the first time.
Backstory: Lucainan was into cats. That is all.
Top/mid left: Righty-roo.
Patented by: Desler
First used: I forget which thread it was, but it was a huge one. It was something to do with the Gallantry I'm pretty sure.
Backstory: It was Desler's way of saying "okay" or "alright" but with a special homosexual flare that spiced up the forums.
Mid-left: 8)!
Patented by: Adun!
First used: In all of Adun's posts!
Backstory: 8)! evolved into 8D! and several other knockoffs.
Everyone wanted a piece of Adun's individuality, so they started
copying him. My knockoff was B)! It's awesome, and you know it.
Mid-bottom left: Sexy fish!
Patented by: Lucainan (later stolen by JasonienXXI! ^_^)
First used: Lucainan first used it when the Gallantry layout went
up on the front page and he said that the ship looked like a fish. But
a sexy fish.
Backstory: Lucainan recorded a hilarious song with random notes on
the keyboard being mashed and him singing in falcetto. It was quite
hilarious. Jasonien also claimed that he made it up. Which is a dirty
lie!
Bottom middle: Fecking Hell!
Patented by: Magic
First used: Magic posted a picture of some British TV show and a
guy named Father John (or someone on the show) getting struck by
lightning, and the caption was "FECKING HELL!"
Backstory: Magic webcammed his ass and posted it. That has no relevance, but just so you know, it happened.
Middle: All Your Base
Patented by: Zerowing
First used: Zerowing, the poorly translated Japanese game, was just
being discovered and overused by net kiddies around the world. This was
when it was popular.
Backstory: Move Zig. _________________
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| PYRoMaNiaC wrote: |
PYRoSiG1.gif
Bunches of Quotes (haha, you thought I was gonna say "oats..." |
O.o -- when I first saw that picture some year(s) ago-- I just
thought that picture just contained flames, a firebat, "Pyromanic",
"Fire is good" and nothing else.
I never noticed those quotes until now -- hard to see if you just glance at the picture for a while. _________________ Sig___na___ture__?
What? Do I sign here? |
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Make that your signature. Now whore. Reminds me of the "Good Old Days" _________________
Rei is so hot!
"Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling
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OMG, I am older than AQ. _________________
Rei is so hot!
"Flying isn't really all that hard; it is just a matter of falling and
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That was such a big sig Pyro, how ever were you allowed to keep it on? heh _________________ Six year Veteran and counting...
Palin ( April 13, 2001 ) : "Damn, so close to taking over CC too... ... You heard nothing!" |
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I don't remember it being that big.
Also notice the newest registered user is desler... _________________ Crass - the Unelected president
I shout in the streets and you take my voice
This sham of democracy leaves no choice
Take my eyes 'til there's nothing to see
Except abuse and destruction, no chance to be free
Taken my thinking, my means of survival
Thrust in my hand your gun and your bible
Told me to kill for the lord up above
You've given me hate when I KNOW THERE IS LOVE
-Crass
Who Do they Think they're fooling you?
Anarchy
Favorite song at the moment:
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It's "Desler."
With a period.
Impersonations, anyone? _________________ Tramau - Co-Leader of The T.O.U.A.P.
irc2.beyondirc.net #touap
Members:
Tramau - T.R.A.M.P.S. founder.
Kellanved - ULP founder.
WhoIsBetterOffDead - TEPoDP founder.
Ushdui - Psychologist.
Warbringer87 - 56kP Founder. |
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the way, I really miss those guys.. Lucainan, Codebreaker, TheOracle,
Desler, Ruaquick1... And I think AA7 is right. The current generation
is one of kids who played Pokemon as their first game, the forum's full
of newbies. But maybe it's not for us to judge. Maybe it's not the
newbies that should go, but us. |
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I
just wanted to chime in and point out that there is at least one
largescale, mod-filled, huge new campaign for WC3 nearing its
completion, and that's Return of The Dragon, by Darkeagle (Darky) over
at WC3C. He also has a previous completed campaign under his belt, but
I haven't played it. I have however played some of ROTD in beta, and
found the maps pretty impressive.
The scale of the project alone is prasieworthy. Darky has lined up a
ton of very talented contributors who have provided new models for
units and buildings, new skins, new item models, new icons by the
dozen, and alot more. I personally have contributed 9 new icons (many
for new units' new spells) and a 10 track musical score. It really is a
giant project, and he's close to wrapping it up, with 8 of the 10 maps
completed.
Maybe people here could look to ROTD for some inspiration to get
off their behinds and make something for everyone to enjoy, and to see
that a largescale project with lots of original content can still be
completed these days.
Here's the link:
Return Of The Dragon
I'm also surprised that more people haven't followed RCX's lead in
making projects which can be completed by an individual or small team.
The general attitude of the community around here, from what I've
observed, is far less creative and willing to work than when CC was
churning out maps (if not whole complete campaigns) during the peak of
SC. Back then there were always people starting up new projects, always
new campaigns on the horizon. However much their quality levels varied,
at least people were making the effort to have fun in a creative way,
using SC as a medium to tell stories to the best of their ability.
Where is that spirit now? Was WC3 that dull to most of you?
My advice, which nobody ever follows, is: "make stuff". If you're
new to modding / campaign making, start small. Shoot for attainable
goals. Finish a small project, release it, apply for hosting somewhere
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